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1 posted on 05/19/2025 4:50:45 AM PDT by RandFan
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How about a piece that retains the No Tax on Social Security? Let the Democrats specifically vote against that one.


2 posted on 05/19/2025 5:01:06 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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The cuts to Medicaid were cuts to Medicaid to illegals according to a Twitter post.

Is this right?


3 posted on 05/19/2025 5:03:03 AM PDT by packagingguy
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I think Johnson...maybe last week... said it would be better if it was in more than one package.


4 posted on 05/19/2025 5:03:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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First, get the campaign promises fulfilled with the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Bill.

Then, restore regular order. Make Committee Work Great Again.


5 posted on 05/19/2025 5:04:48 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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This could be the sure way to pass no bill and lose the house & senate. That is what the never trumpers and corrrupt members are striving for. Who could believe that this path could lead anywhere but to defeat?


6 posted on 05/19/2025 5:11:22 AM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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I will joyfully contribute to primary any Senator who refuses to vote for a version of this bill before July 4th.


7 posted on 05/19/2025 5:14:07 AM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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Really , you love the BS from A Bolton at the Shill .
Posting the Usual Lies and DNC talking points from Dem operative A. Bolton at the Shill ?
This Commie been a full blown Dem activist since this scums days at Yahoo Leftist News .
Dont believe a single word from this Dem 24/7 operation .
10 posted on 05/19/2025 5:21:10 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Gop DC Globalists are the evil)
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Nope. That is ONLY the way to get the parts democrats will agree to passed.

It has to be all or nothing.

The noncontroversial bits are the key to getting the controversial bits passed.


12 posted on 05/19/2025 5:21:39 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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The senate is breaking down Trump’s bill is helping their good old boy democrat pals it will be hell to pay when their up for reelection.


14 posted on 05/19/2025 5:32:30 AM PDT by Vaduz
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We here in New Hampshire must do our part by making sure that the disgrace, Shaheen is not replaced with another RAT.


15 posted on 05/19/2025 5:35:49 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (“Time to Play Cowboys and Snowflakes!”)
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Names! We need names. Time to flood their in-boxes. This has to be done and SOON! Ya got 3 more years to fix things if you can keep the house and senate.


16 posted on 05/19/2025 5:43:30 AM PDT by mistfree (Fear Destroys Freedom)
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Been here, done that. They'll pass the "less controversial" apsects, meaning spending increases and then, like Lucy and Charlie Brown, will pull the ball away, punting spending cuts down the line.

No way no how. They either address spending cuts or nothing goes.

19 posted on 05/19/2025 5:52:02 AM PDT by Solson (Will anything change fundamentally?)
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Now it’s before the fall. The jokes write themselves.


20 posted on 05/19/2025 5:54:11 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Long live The Great MAGA Kangz!)
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They will have to vote it separately if votes are lacking for the single package that they select, but the outcome will be more certain if they can agree on a single package that is sure to pass.


21 posted on 05/19/2025 6:01:50 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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The Senate had its job cut out for it, and the one thing they have to focus on is the budget deficit and how it will affect our debt which will be approaching $40 trillion and increasing our debt to GDP ratio ( it is now close to 125% last I checked ).

The “big beautiful bill” that recently passed through the House committee does not address the budget deficit or the national debt in a meaningful or effective way. In fact, independent analyses and bipartisan fiscal watchdogs project that the bill would significantly increase both the deficit and the debt over the next decade.

The bill proposes to permanently extend the 2017 Trump tax cuts and add new tax reductions (including eliminating taxes on tips, overtime, and auto loan interest), while also increasing funding for border security and defense. Independent estimates project that these measures would increase the national debt by approximately $2.5 to $3.3 trillion over the next ten years!

See here:

https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/big-beautiful-bill-house-gop-tax-plan/

Spending Cuts Are Small or Uncertain:
While the bill includes some proposed spending cuts (such as to Medicaid and social programs), these are either relatively small compared to the size of the tax cuts or are delayed and may not materialize.

For example, the House Freedom Caucus and other fiscal conservatives have criticized the bill for not delivering real, immediate savings, noting that “as written, the bill continues increased deficits in the near term with possible savings years down the road that may never materialize.

See here:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/johnson-house-gop-track-pass-trump-agenda-bill/story?id=121929563

The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a nonpartisan group, estimates a $3.3 trillion increase in debt from the bill.

See here:

https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/big-beautiful-bill-house-gop-tax-plan/

It looks like The “big, beautiful” bill, as currently written, would increase the budget deficit and national debt, not reduce them. The tax cuts far outweigh the proposed spending reductions, and any promised savings are either minor or uncertain


22 posted on 05/19/2025 6:30:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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This Bill, as written will not pass Senate at all.

Forget the Democrats for a moment ( since we all know they want more spending )…. The Senate’s inclination regarding the “big beautiful bill” is strongly skeptical and largely negative in its current form. Multiple Republican senators, including Sen. Ron Johnson, have openly predicted that the House bill will “sink” in the Senate, describing it as “the Titanic” and arguing it does not do enough to reduce spending or address the deficit.

Ron Johnson and others are actively working to ensure its defeat, calling instead for smaller, more targeted bills rather than a single massive package.

Senate Republicans have indicated they want to break up the House bill into “bite-sized pieces,” suggesting that the comprehensive approach taken by the House is a “mistake” and unlikely to pass in the upper chamber. There is also significant criticism from fiscal watchdogs and Senate staff that the bill would increase deficits and debt, rather than reduce them.


24 posted on 05/19/2025 6:40:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Stupid bastards better pass the Bill intact or the country will fail


26 posted on 05/19/2025 6:44:22 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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The Senate GOP needs to get its act together; letting the 2017 tax cuts lapse is not an option, it’s a November 2026 death sentence.


28 posted on 05/19/2025 6:51:48 AM PDT by Wuli (.)
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Expected, GOP screws it up, again.


31 posted on 05/19/2025 6:54:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Breaking up the bill requires regular order, and each bill will become susceptible to cloture votes.

The whole point of the Big Beautiful Bill was that it would go through the reconciliation process that requires only a majority vote in the Senate to pass.

This proposal is actually a backhanded attempt to derail President Trump's agenda.

-PJ

32 posted on 05/19/2025 6:56:54 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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