The "Transgender" agenda, even if it fails, advances the entire queer agenda.

self | 05/13/2025 | fwdude

[fwdude]

It's all a strategy of sunk costs. By advancing the transgender agenda, even if it ultimately loses, the homosexuals ensconce themselves into legitimacy, from which transgenderism will eventually reassert itself.

It's like the old joke about the kid confessing a list of horrific outcomes: jail, pregnant girlfriend, drug addiction. Only to finally confess to his parents that none of it was true; that he only flunked math. Thank God!

"Dad, I've discovered that I'm transgender."
"What?!!"
"Oh, I misspoke. I'm not transgender, I'm gay."
"Whew!! That's a relief!"

Unless we remain committed to fight the entire ball of wax, we'll lose in the end. At least in this life.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda

[Tell It Right]

Agreed. And on that note, the gay agenda advances heterosexual immorality as well.

Mom, I've got friends with benefits, but at least I'm not gay.

[PGR88]

Yes. Controlled social norms and leftist social engineering have pushed so many bizarre sexual practices and identities, that “vanilla” homosexuality (although it never is) is seen by many as perfectly normal.

[Carry_Okie]

...the homosexuals ensconce themselves into legitimacy, from which transgenderism transhumanism will eventually reassert itself.

Fixed.

[lee martell]

I disagree. The Trans agenda is distinct in that it demands complete redefinition of very basic ways in which we see the world around us. The Trans agenda is fragile and brittle.

It appears to be highly dependent on maintaining fantasy and wishful thinking, without regard to the contradictions everyone sees in front of them. That agenda seems incapable of showing compassion and/or empathy for anyone who is not also Trans. It’s very dangerous and destructive movement. Extraordinarily self centered.

[Responsibility2nd]

Transgender, queer, pedophile, etc....

It’s all the same difference.

[anton]

I think it takes more than lifestyle posturing for a man to put his lips around another man’s penis or that that penis into his anus.

I think it is safe to say that it takes some pretty serious mental illness to do those things. In fact, it can be argued that a guy putting on a dress and hobnobbing with a herd of fat chicks at the mall is likely not as mentally sick as everyday homo behavior.

[fwdude]

It’s the Overton Window effect. The range of acceptable behavior is shifted over years to a new paradigm, almost without us noticing.

[joshua c]

put gay marriage back on the table

watch how quickly the gay lobby drops the t’s

[waterhill]

Communists

[ClearCase_guy]

I agree with you.

For literally decades, the homosexuals have said: “Don’t try to fix me! I’m not broken! I was born with same-sex attraction! You could say that God made me this way. No, I don’t need therapy! No medical professional is going to change me and make me “normal”. This is just the way I am.”

Then the transgenders come along and sing a different song: “I need to be fixed! I am broken! I was born the wrong sex! God screwed this up, but I know better, and I know how I can be healed. I need medical attention! Lots of medical attention. Surgery! Hormones! Therapy! I can be re-made into the other sex — the proper sex — and then I will finally be normal. I shouldn’t have to live the way I am.”

The two schools of thought are polar opposites. I suppose one may be able to leverage some advancement from the other, but only with weak-minded people. The whole transgender situation, in my mind, weakens all of the “gay rights” that have been put forth since about 1969.

[Democrat = party of treason]

When a Nation begins to turn it’s back on God, it is evident within that society. You get two kinds of evil, violence and immorality comes out of the closet to play. The violence we see playing out in mass shootings, and the “free love”(read lust) era starting in the late 60’s and 70’s. Then you advance to the homosexuality era after that, and finally what we are seeing now, people who have lost all reasonable thought processes who don’t know what they are, sexually speaking, who act out accordingly. Every sort of evil feels emboldened, hence the pedophiles and ever increasing child molester news. God gives these people up to defile themselves, and society playing footsie with them just makes it all that much worse.

[Wuli]

No. Even many “gays” are not for or approving of many things the “transgender” agenda seeks.

Example: Marina Navratilova, a well known “gay” pro tennis player, has come out strongly against trans-men in women’s sports. Why, and why do so many “gay” women agree with her. “Gay” or not, they accept that the gender we are is our biological gender.

[Carl Vehse]

Those who push such perverted agendas on the public should either be put into loony bin for the mentally insane or tried and convicted for giving aid and comfort to the domestic and fireign enemies ofthe United States.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

In all the EARLY movies and books, a man dressed as a woman was considered a CLOWN, a Court Jester FOR LAUGHS as the man in the book WAR AND PEACE. (There is a quick scene of him getting on a horse in the 1966 Russian movie version)
Now those clowns want to be taken serious but they are still CLOWNS and will ALWAYS BE SO!
Never let them forget, THEY ARE STILL CLOWNS!

[RoosterRedux]

I’ve seen some gay commentators on TV express concern that the rise of radical gender activism is undermining the progress made by the broader LGBTQ community.

They say they’ve worked hard to be seen as ordinary, stable members of society, but now worry that extreme behavior associated with the trans movement is making the public view the entire LGBTQ spectrum with suspicion.

Douglas Murray is one example of someone who has voiced this concern.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "It's all a strategy of sunk costs. By advancing the transgender agenda, even if it ultimately loses, the homosexuals ensconce themselves into legitimacy, from which transgenderism will eventually reassert itself."

A very apt notion. The larger picture is the long-term attack on the entire Judeo-Christian world. Even those bent little LGBT+ congregations who pretend Christianity have Romans 1 in their bibles.

Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.

In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.

Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

The chapter then goes on to mention why:

They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity.

They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice.

They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.

So, as you note, "the homosexuals ensconce themselves into legitimacy...."

One need not agree with them. That's the nub of it.

[bk1000]

We’re (mostly) old. The young don’t care what we think. We can shun queers all we want to and it won’t matter to them. If the next gen wants to be queer there isn’t much more I can do about it. As far as I am concerned, I will have nothing to do with them.

[Glad2bnuts]

What the person puts forward is logical, it is sometimes expressed as the window “Overton Window”. They push too far so that they can compromise on what was once a “hill to die for” becomes compromise. Like Russia v Ukraine. Since Ukraine won’t give up the land Russia originally wanted back in its control, Russia takes much more, then the idea that they get the “Donetsk” is papatable. The further the insanity is pushed, the more “normalcy” or the status quo loses.

[Glad2bnuts]

Exactly, build asylums, to protect these poor unfortunate trannies from the mean public. Watch how quickly mommies and male mommies quit encouraging trans children. Better yet, how the children learn their choice is to GET OVER YOURSELF, or end up in the protective asylum.