Posted on 05/06/2025 10:11:29 AM PDT by ransomnote
[H/T openurmind]
If you bought your computer after 2010, there's most likely no reason to throw it out. By just installing an up-to-date Linux operating system you can keep using it for years to come.
Installing an operating system may sound difficult, but you don't have to do it alone. With any luck, there are people in your area ready to help!
Find someone to help you → [ransomnote: I removed the link. Only one of the listings (so far) is listed in the United states and I linked it to the image below].
Would you like to help others keep their computer alive after Windows 10?
5 Reasons to upgrade your old computer to Linux
- It's waaaaay cheaper
A new laptop costs a lot of money. Repair cafes will often help you for free. Software updates are also free, forever. You can of course show your support for both with donations!- No ads, no spying
Windows comes with lots of ads and spyware nowadays, slowing down your computer and increasing your energy bill.- Good for the planet
Production of a computer accounts for 75+% of carbon emissions over its lifecycle. Keeping a functioning device longer is a hugely effective way to reduce emissions.- Community support
If you have any issues with your computer, the local repair cafe and independent computer shop are there for you. You can find community support in online forums, too.- User control
You are in control of the software, not companies. Use your computer how you want, for as long as you want.Convinced?
Then find your closest repair cafe or independent computer shop and enjoy your brand-new, old computer!
Repair your old computer → [ransomnote: I removed the link. Only one of the listings (so far) is listed in the United states and I linked it to the image below].
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I built my Windows 8.1 computer in 2014.
Free upgrades all the way to Windows 11.
With MS SQL Server Express (free but limit to 10 GB) running on Linux I’m tempted to switch to Linux. I do enough data querying for my family’s investments and other things to warrant something more powerful than MySQL. But the developer tools within MS Visual Studio are second to none in my opinion. If I wasn’t into those things, Linux would be great for everything else I use a computer for.
Circa 1990 on a bulletin board......
Me: I heard you are working on some kind of Unix system?
Linus: Yes, it’s going to be free, do you want to try it.
Me: Hell yea.
If only Microsoft had built an OS that was highly-resistant to viruses and other malware... but no -
And with the forced end to Windows 10, millions of users are left with computers that won’t receive even basic updates.
On the other hand - it takes resources to produce updates - even for security. But again, here we are with a system that requires way too much upkeep.
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MS “We have this crap new OS that likely won’t run on your fairly recent computer, which will force you to buy a new computer- and because folks are being slow about upgrading, We are dropping support for 10 so that your computer will be vulnerable to viruses from here on out.”
But the same sort of thing happens with Linux. I'm running Linux Mint 20.3 and I'm getting no end of nags telling me it's obsolete and I should update to something newer.
However, Mint (and most other "modern" Linuxes) will update themselves in place. Keep your files where they are, run the update and Bada-Bing, you're on the updated version.
I just had Linux installed on a new laptop that I bought. I haven’t transferred everything over from the old computer yet. Two suggestions:
1. Get help installing it. I tried unsuccessfully twice to do it myself. I had to get a computer expert to help. He had a lot of difficulty. It is my understanding that, if you are running Windows 11, there are extra difficulties involved.
2. If you are going to load both Windows and Linux, allocate most of your hard drive for Linux.
I just find Linux's suckage more endurable.
I am still using windows 7!
Works fine.
Upgrading to the new Operating System in place sounds fantastic, and the way it should be. But wait, there's moar:
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 05/01/2025 Vol.507, Q Day 2742, Grammy wrote: Mr G upgraded his computers to windows 11 and it has been hell around here ever since. All his work apps quit working. Trying to get them going again is a pita especially since many of them are from Europe. He finally returned one of his computers to 10 and is trying to salvage his life. Not a good thing.
That's part of what I want to avoid. The primary motivator for me was a chip (Trusted Platform Module a.k.a. TPM) in computers equipped to run Windows 11. The chip 'protects you' (insert sarcasm tag here) and while I don't really think they were forthcoming as to its capabilities, some geeks seem to be saying that the chip means no more anonymity. The chip uniquely identifies your computer. Many articles, like the excerpt below treat the TPM like a normal requirement, so I am erring on the side of caution (Which is what people climbing into lifeboats hanging off the side of the Titanic most likely thought).
Why Windows 11 requires a TPM - and how to get around it
Windows 11 officially requires a Trusted Platform Module. Here's what it does and how you can work around that requirement if your old PC doesn't have one.When Microsoft introduced Windows 11 in 2021, its new, stringent hardware compatibility test included checking for the presence of a Trusted Platform Module (TPM) -- specifically, one that meets the TPM 2.0 standard.
So, what is a TPM, and why does Windows insist that you need one?
The simple answer is that a TPM is a secure cryptoprocessor, a dedicated microcontroller designed to handle security-related tasks and manage encryption keys in a way that minimizes the ability of attackers to break into a system.
I think that means they can control who accesses which websites and cut off access based on anything (driving record, tax records, vax records etc.) so you could have a dead computer unless you behave. I think it means they are further transitioning from 'letting' you purchase non Microsoft Software, and when buying from Microsoft, will soon require a continuous subscription for each program you use (forcing your computer to conform to their standards) to essentially 'rent' programs.
Compare that to Linux, for the operating system and programs are free, and which are crowdsourced security so everyone can look at the code and ask, "Hey, what's that new line of code there? What does it do? Let me check that out...." In Windows, the core of the source code (kernal) is encrypted so Microsoft can do whatever it wants and you won't know.
For example, Elon Musk noted the Windows function which takes real-time screen captures (everything on your screen, including what you are typing) and saves them so that 'you' have a complete record of everything you put on your computer, and you can search it with AI. Older computers are not powerful enough to run this function efficiently, if at all. I believe this means that Microsoft can search your computer the same way, and access everything on it.
Also, when I set up my computers with Win 10, I avoid using the public logon (you have to log into your Microsoft Account every time you use your computer) and instead I have a local account (I log in to just my computer). For those who do have to log in to Microsoft, then it seems to me they have access to your computer, and they can end that access if you 'violate community standards' or some other requirement they have.
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PS: I lack your courage in trusting 'Sunsetted' Windows. I think hackers are gonna have fun for the first few months that security updates halt for Windows machines.
Bkmk
I have a geek buddy who’s given me a standing invitation to switch to Linux. I learned on Windows 98 when I was a tot, so it’s hard to break the habit.
However, Windows 7 was peak, far as I’m concerned. Windows 8 was a downgrade and 10 was irritating. Windows 11 is worse.
Aside from the new environment, Linux would probably not play well with some of my favorite software.
Besides, so many versions of Linux. Who knows which one is best? I sure don’t.
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Updates!!
Slooowly I turned...
I loathe updates. Unlike most people I don't spend a lot of time online, don't go to strange sites much, rarely email. Updates are nothing but a hassle to me and they always seem to happen when I'm in the middle of something and don't appreciate an interruption.
Nor do I have a problem with buying another computer, I still have most of them going back to the Win98 desktop with the anvil-size monitor. Most still work, or serve as giant usb's.
All I'm asking for is to be ignored by Google, Microsoft and whatever else is following me around with another shot of "what's-best-for-you."
If they want to improve the world why don't they make a decent printer?
I have two boxes too old to upgrade. One of these is dual-boot with Linux already; the other is being used as a media server and can run just fine under that OS when I decide to convert it too. For the newer boxes Win 11 is already running. My initial impression is that it isn't really enough different to justify a major version upgrade - maybe better called Win 10.1, if you like - but it's no dog either (Windows 8, I'm lookin' at YOU). Ah, for the days of Microsoft Bob. Now that was an OS... ;-)
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