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1 posted on 05/03/2025 3:35:51 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Epic tale


2 posted on 05/03/2025 3:38:15 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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Well, you see, there’s a port on a western bay, and it serves a hundred ships a day. Lonely sailors pass the time away and talk about their homes


4 posted on 05/03/2025 3:41:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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Had to read The Odyssey in HS.
No way i could do it....skipped it and took the D.
...And i was a big book reader at the time.


5 posted on 05/03/2025 3:44:39 PM PDT by mowowie
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Watched this a few weeks ago. It was OK. Not sure if it was true to the poem. Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche were also in "The English Patient."


9 posted on 05/03/2025 3:45:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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Funny you should ask - just started (re) reading The Odyssey, seeing it's been about 50+ years since I read it the first time (under duress).

So far, I'm not loving it.

But the only book I've ever started and never finished was Finnegan's Wake. Just awful.

17 posted on 05/03/2025 3:50:06 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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One thing right off the bat!
“In the seventh century BCE, the Greek poet Homer wrote the Odyssey.”
Poets didn’t write, back then it was all told from memory.

Somebody later on wrote it down and as was tradition attributed the writings to the original story teller.
Not to themselves.

I love these stories and they inspired generations of people.
I checked my library and I still have the Iliad and the Odyssey.
Right next to Moby Dick!


20 posted on 05/03/2025 3:59:23 PM PDT by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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There is as real Netherworld in Italy. See Robert Temple's Netherworld

25 posted on 05/03/2025 4:08:05 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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This would take him to the coast of Africa, far west of Egypt, perhaps to Tunisia.

I worked I Tunisia in early 1970s and we were told the island of Djerba was the Ilead’s Isle of the Lotus Eaters.

27 posted on 05/03/2025 4:19:28 PM PDT by 1066AD
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We don't know if there was a real person named Odysseus.

If I remember correctly, 7 of the 10 years after the fall of Troy were spent on Calypso's island--she wouldn't let him leave.

29 posted on 05/03/2025 4:28:15 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Its not BCE. There is no “common era”. Its Before Christ.

This Agnostic will happily tell everyone so.

Change in western terminology rejected.


30 posted on 05/03/2025 4:37:40 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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The real literary question is whether or not Odysseus actually went to any of these places or did any of these things.

The ‘travels’ portion of the Odyssey is only four books out of twenty-four. Odysseus, a known liar, is telling this story to the gullible Phaiakians, who aren’t really the brightest bulbs in Greece. None is this journey stuff is narrated in third person.

Odysseus is like “Well I’m about to get home; I’ve got to get my story straight about how I left Ithaca with all its best men and ten warships, and yet they’re all dead, and I, their commander, am the only one left alive.”


32 posted on 05/03/2025 4:41:05 PM PDT by bakeneko
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It is impossible to use “BCE” and be taken seriously.

If anyone thinks they can take such a person seriously, it’s because they are themselves not a serious thinker.


34 posted on 05/03/2025 5:12:19 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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"In the seventh century BCE BC, the Greek poet Homer wrote the Odyssey."

FIFY

35 posted on 05/03/2025 5:23:30 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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I read it when I was a student at Darmstadt American High School in Darmstadt, Germany and found it to be a fascinating because many of the places Odysseus visited were only a few hundred miles away. The teacher was a rookie, but nonetheless, she was effective in getting us interested in the story, and we used names like Scylla, Charybdis, etc., as insults.

In college, I read The Odyssey twice.

36 posted on 05/03/2025 5:29:06 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
A tale of a fateful trip
That started from this tropic port
Aboard this tiny ship.

The mate was a mighty sailing man,
The skipper brave and sure.
Five passengers set sail that day
For a three hour tour, a three hour tour...........


40 posted on 05/03/2025 5:54:26 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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A few years ago, I decided my education was deficient because I had not read the Iliad.

I found it to be fascinating reading, with all kinds if interesting information.


46 posted on 05/03/2025 6:54:40 PM PDT by marktwain
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Odysseus was trying to get home but was in no hurry. He was fascinated by the world he was discovering. That’s why he listened to the song of the sirens, dallied long with Circe, etc. That’s why he refused to eat the lotuses. He did not want to forget.


48 posted on 05/03/2025 7:37:18 PM PDT by Savage Beast (There's a Light over the Whole World. I just want everybody to be happy, healthy and well. --DJT)
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🎶“A three-hour tour. A three-hour tour…”🎶


49 posted on 05/03/2025 7:52:18 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Cleveland.

He went to Cleveland.

CC


52 posted on 05/04/2025 12:02:37 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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Maybe if he had asked for some directions???

But then the Odyssey would be a slim pamphlet..


53 posted on 05/04/2025 3:01:29 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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