Posted on 05/03/2025 3:45:58 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, said on Saturday that President Donald Trump's assertion that the U.S. had done more than any other country to win World War Two was "pretentious nonsense".
Trump posted on social network Truth Social late on Thursday that "nobody was close to us in terms of strength, bravery, or military brilliance" in both world wars, and that "we did more than any other country, by far, in producing a victorious result in World War II."
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"Trump recently announced that the U.S. made the biggest contribution to victory in World War Two and that he will introduce a special holiday on May 8. A holiday is not a bad thing, but his first statement is pretentious nonsense," Medvedev said in a post on the VK social network.
"Our people sacrificed 27 million lives of their sons and daughters in the name of destroying accursed fascism. Therefore, Victory Day is ours and it is May 9! So it was, so it is, so it will always be!" wrote Medvedev.
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NO ONE cares about your war anymore.
In case you havent’ noticed lol
NO ONE I know even TALKS about u-crane.
cause we’re out of it.
ciao
And to this day the Russian death toll is very high in their current war. Actually, so is the death toll for the Ukes, but then again the Ukes are also former USSR slavs. They have a thing about dying for their country. Glad it’s them instead of us.
Fascinating. What he must have participated in- and a good luck and thanks to đđ» that he survived the war!
If you donât mind me asking: why had he been in Borneo when the American-Japanese War broke out after the attack on PH? Were there American troops stationed in the Dutch East Indies by then? To deter potential invaders (the Japanese army, for instance)?
I thought America had been neutral until the sneak attack on PHâŠđ€
Until 1944, almost all USA military aid was shipped to Russia via Iran and the Middle East, or, via the North Sea and Arctic Ocean.
Still, I believe that the Russians would still have won in the end.
You cannot control a land mass as large as Russia. Thatâs why the Mongols never tried to rule Russia directly-they regularly exacted tributes, but otherwise left the Russian principalities alone (Russia was not yet united as a polity then).
The numbers for vehicles is staggering. 750,000 trucks. Most made by Studebaker. The Russians actually built a monument to Sgudrbaker. 7,000 P39 and P63 Bell fighters. 3,000 A 20 bombers. 100 Octane aviation gas. And the list g goes.
Still it must be mentioned that for every German soldier in France and the Low Countries on June 6 1944 there were three on the Eastern Front. Without Russia the Allies never even get off the beach.
The problem with Hitler, which Stalin obviously didnât realize, is that madmen do not behave according to logical patterns.
Still, I would love to know whether, in an alternate timeline, if Hitler hadnât been so devilish and had left Russia alone, maybe Stalin might one day have had the wish to extend his territory a little to the WestâŠafter all, why not bring Communism to the neighbors at the tip of the bayonet, if good words donât avail anything?
My dad joined the navy in 1939.
“About 24 November 1941,” her war diary reported “the Commander-in-Chief, U.S. Asiatic Fleet sensed that the relations between the United States and Japan had reached such a critical state that movement of men-of war . . . was indicated.” The next day, Marblehead , with TF 5, departed Manila Bay for seemingly “routine weekly operations.” She anchored at Tarakan, Borneo, 29 November and waited for further instructions.”
On 8 December (7 December in the
United States) she received the message “Japan started hostilities; govern yourselves accordingly.”
The reason Patton was not allowed to end Russia is because the Military Industrial Complex needs a forever enemy!!
Trump is right again.
thanks Red
The Russians make the Ukes look like super troopers.
I am certainly impressed by the willingness of the Ukes to defend their country. Compare the Ukes to the Iraqis or the Afghans. I am especially impressed by the embrace by the Ukes of drones. We can learn a lot from them.
But, we - the U.S. - would have figured out some way to get around or behind the Ruskies during the counter-offensive of 2023, using our reliance on combined arms.
OhâŠI see. Thank you very much for this explanation đ
You see, I am a bit stupid - I should have known that the Pearl Harbor attack had a kind of prelude, that relations between D.C. and Tokyo had begun to sour some time beforeâŠđ
Sorry, here in Europe, people know much more about the European campaigns. In my opinion, World War Two was several different conflicts rolled into one. For the Chinese, Koreans and Japanese, the war began in 1937, not in 1939 or in 1941 respectively.
US Big Banks, Industrialists, the US Government did fund the Soviets, and even the Soviet Revolution. We also funded the Nazis per Anthony Suttonâs âWall Street Trilogyâ. We only entered the war late to make certain both sides paid us!
Soviet tactics that âshockinglyâ valued gains over lives lostâŠ
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and continues to this day during their invasion of Ukraine ...
I think it was either noxious nixon, bush sr or clinton who absolved the russisan debt. was big new at the time as I recall.
“””” In my opinion, World War Two was several different conflicts rolled into one. “”””
It was, but to be able to discuss it people have to bite off manageable chunks that can fit into our conversations and discussions.
yes, meyer.
I did not mean to diminish the contribution of the Soviet Union.
Having said that, in our “Victory Plan” for the war (an evolving document), we planned to fight all of them - Hitler, Tojo, Mussolini, Stalin, and the lesser allies - prior to Hitler’s attack on the Soviet Union.
When Hitler attacked the Soviet Union, we had to re-calibrate. Instead of building a 400 division ground force, we only went with 90. We reserved a lot of our manpower to be “the arsenal of democracy.”
Originally, “Rosie the Riveter” was just a downpayment. We were going to use woman power a lot more (along using even more migrants as farm laborers).
Somebody else on this thread detailed the lend lease we sent to Russia.
In addition (and as in the original Victory Plan, we build up a navy equal to all other navies in the world combined, and an air force equal to all other air forces in the world combined.
Without the American supply chain the Russians would be speaking German. Starving people don’t fight.
After Stalin starved the Ukrainians they welcomed the Nazies as saviors. Which is where today’s BS started.
Are you sure it wasn’t all of the communists that had infiltrated the Roosevelt/Truman administration that prevented Patton from ending the USSR?
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