To: marcusmaximus; All
The General needs to fade away
He’s no diplomat nor is he much of a military strategist
Or perhaps just accept Ukrainian citizenship
WTH put him on Trump’s team?
2 posted on
04/29/2025 2:50:14 PM PDT by
silverleaf
(“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
To: marcusmaximus
3-day...hangover recovery period. Sounds about right.
To: marcusmaximus
The green-shirted punk troll doesn’t want a ceasefire while he lies about wanting a ceasefire.
4 posted on
04/29/2025 2:51:32 PM PDT by
kiryandil
(No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
To: marcusmaximus
A 3 day ceasefire observed by both sides could save 3,000-5,000 lives and maimings given the daily rate of attrition
Mere pittance to General Kellogg
5 posted on
04/29/2025 2:53:13 PM PDT by
silverleaf
(“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
To: marcusmaximus
But what does General Mills say?
7 posted on
04/29/2025 2:55:52 PM PDT by
Fledermaus
("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
To: marcusmaximus
The Russians want a space of peace to celebrate their WW2 victory, the really don’t give a F if the West likes it or not. I am sure the Russians will fight if the Ukrainians attack them but otherwise it will be all quiet on the front lines.
To: marcusmaximus
Any ceasefire is absurd without a permanent solution to the problem, which absolutely requires Ukraine to give up the annexed area and end all involvement with NATO.
The only other alternative is Ukraine continuing to lose territory and lives.
11 posted on
04/29/2025 2:58:16 PM PDT by
Kazan
To: marcusmaximus
Still waiting for Zelinski to offer a cease-fire.
Waiting.
Waiting
Waiting.
19 posted on
04/29/2025 3:06:35 PM PDT by
Responsibility2nd
(Nobody elected Elon Musk? Well nobody elected the Deep State either.)
To: marcusmaximus
A temporary “ceasefire” just gives both sides time to resupply.
20 posted on
04/29/2025 3:08:24 PM PDT by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
To: marcusmaximus
28 posted on
04/29/2025 3:32:49 PM PDT by
Allegra
(Strategic initiatives )
To: marcusmaximus
He's a Zelensky butt boy anyways.
29 posted on
04/29/2025 3:34:08 PM PDT by
McGruff
(Biden will go down in history as the worst president ever.)
... The NATO question came to the fore a final time after the war had been under way for a month. Israel’s Prime Minister Naftali Bennet, trusted by both sides, served as Putin and Zelensky’s go-between and developed the outline of a ceasefire. Putin dropped his demand for the “disarmament of Ukraine”; Zelensky agreed to drop plans to join NATO. Substantive talks between diplomats from the two countries continued in late March in Belarus and Istanbul: Russia would withdraw from eastern Ukraine; Ukraine would recognize Russia’s possession of Crimea; Ukraine would drop its NATO aspiration and seek security guarantees from individual Western countries. Zelensky’s advisor, David Arakhamia, later commented, “They were prepared to end the war if we agreed to, as Finland once did, neutrality and committed that we would not join NATO. In fact this was the key point.” The Istanbul negotiations even produced a draft agreement. Zelensky’s aide, Alexey Arestovich, described the negotiations as completely successful: “We opened the champagne bottle.”
But Washington would have none of it. Bennet later explained, “The Americans decided to crush Putin rather than to negotiate.” Shortly thereafter Boris Johnson showed up in Kiev with promises of more weapons and a message from Biden. Horton cites a Ukrainian paper, Ukrainska Pravda: “Putin should be pressured, not negotiated with…. The collective West now felt…that Putin was not really as powerful as previously imagined, and there was a chance to ‘press’ him.”
Following orders, Ukraine abruptly broke off the talks. There are not good sources yet about this American push to throttle an early ceasefire, or, given what we know now about Biden’s condition, who was responsible for it. But Washington decided continuing the war was preferable to a Finlandized Ukraine.
Since then Ukraine and Russia have suffered a million casualties, and Ukraine’s infrastructure may be wrecked for a generation...
The First Draft of the Ukraine War’s History
32 posted on
04/29/2025 3:37:29 PM PDT by
Who is John Galt?
("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
To: marcusmaximus
General Kellogg said its not part of a balanced breakfast.
Meanwhile Captain Crunch remained stalled at Kyiv...
38 posted on
04/29/2025 7:39:30 PM PDT by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
To: marcusmaximus
Best to take what you can get and grow from there
39 posted on
04/29/2025 8:03:01 PM PDT by
struggle
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