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I’m not going to bash the dead over the head. People make mistakes. i’m sorry this happened. Put me in a seat like this and who knows what would happen. God rest their souls.
1 posted on 04/27/2025 12:59:27 PM PDT by Strict9
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OK, I’ll say it. As someone who has done a little flying, you listen to your flight instructor. It doesn’t matter who you are, you listen to your flight instructor. She didn’t and unfortunately 67 people were lost.


2 posted on 04/27/2025 1:09:29 PM PDT by dwg2
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3 posted on 04/27/2025 1:09:47 PM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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I would like to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather.
Not screaming like the passengers in his car on that mountain road.
Sounds like her negligence caused that tragedy. Facts don’t have feelings.


4 posted on 04/27/2025 1:11:43 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Strict9; 04-Bravo; 1FASTGLOCK45; 1stFreedom; 2ndDivisionVet; 2sheds; 60Gunner; 6AL-4V; ...

AVIATION PING!........................


5 posted on 04/27/2025 1:13:33 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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1st mistake ~ She didnt follow orders.

2nd mistake ~ Her dereliction killed over 60 people.


7 posted on 04/27/2025 1:14:30 PM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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I bet if you look at her last valuations they were all superb and exemplary. She was a lezbo, and politically connected to the White House. DEI it’s finest. She was barely qualified as an army pilot, and had no place to go in that environment. She was just there to get her ticket punch to run for office. And she was from a Family connected to the whole Fauci organization.

This crash was nothing but a monument to the corruption that has infested America


9 posted on 04/27/2025 1:21:34 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI...)
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She didn’t listen to ATC or her instructor.


17 posted on 04/27/2025 1:32:44 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide (Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, in the Son of Man, who has no salvation.")
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People make mistakes. I’m sorry this happened. Put me in a seat like this and who knows what would happen.

This wasn't a mistake, it was negligence, part of a large program of putting Didn't Earn It (DEI) hires on positions they're not qualified for.

As for putting you in a seat like that, unless they had a quota to put you there, they'd correctly fail you out of pilot training if you couldn't achieve the mindset and skill set to fly properly.

They refused to cut her from the program and she declined to remove herself.

18 posted on 04/27/2025 1:33:26 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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I thought the instruction from the Tower to the helicopter was vague and irresposible ; instead of "go around behind flight 5342" the command should have been "slow airspeed to under 3knots at an elevation of 200 ft " ( some useful instruction not a vague generality relying on an assumption that the pilot has visual contact on flight 5432)

then add to that pilot error interpreting what "go around behind" means

19 posted on 04/27/2025 1:34:25 PM PDT by KTM rider (my thinking has made a tmajor paradigm shift since 2020, I no longer know what to believe )
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That the chopper pilot made multiple mistakes was obvious to everyone the moment they saw it happen. But sure, an official government report might help it from happening again. If the actual collision didn’t do that already. Now the FAA will have new directives and policies. Which also should have been obvious before this happened.


21 posted on 04/27/2025 1:35:11 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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"Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach."

What was he doing before he turned his attention to her? "His attention" presumably would not have involved turning his head to look at the big fat helmet on her head from the side. (Such would only have been a further waste of precious time.)

He should have been commanding, "My control!" or whatever their agree-upon verbiage to that effect was.

WO Evans had been working the radio (with the controller), so he should have been visually scanning for the CRJ. His awareness that Capt. Lobach hadn't turned left nor descended to be within the limits of Route 1 should have already been at the top of this thinking.

I find it difficult to imagine there was an redirection of his attention, as if he looked up from where he'd fictionally dropped a picture of his wife (Sum of All Fears reference).

She was not aviating (without mistakes). Unless Evans hadn't noticed or didn't care--neither of which I would believe--WO Eaves' attention should have been 100% on making sure the craft was where it was supposed to be altitude-wise and including performing the controller's implicitly-instructed left turn toward the east bank.

Previous reports were that Capt. Lobach had 450 hours of experience, not 45. If that's accurate, someone's apparently been engaged in cover-up, which would suggest mens rea, perhaps where the Biden connection might indicate proper, high standards had already been subverted.

22 posted on 04/27/2025 1:37:38 PM PDT by rx
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How old was this ditz?


24 posted on 04/27/2025 1:44:14 PM PDT by montag813
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The Instructor should have taken Control.


26 posted on 04/27/2025 1:46:17 PM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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She wasn’t alone in that chopper. The officer overseeing her dropped the hall.


27 posted on 04/27/2025 1:48:29 PM PDT by TalBlack (Their god is government. Prepare for a religious war.)
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Well, when people are raised to believe they can do anything, they lose all sense of what's possible, given their capabilities. Also, and more importantly, they lose the measure natural humility that all rational, mature people possess.
29 posted on 04/27/2025 1:52:04 PM PDT by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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But she did satisfy the DEI requirement, which, somehow, became the MOST IMPORTANT requirement of the Biden’s Administration.


30 posted on 04/27/2025 1:52:22 PM PDT by BobL
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Why were they above 200 feet?


32 posted on 04/27/2025 1:53:27 PM PDT by fruser1
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Stop reacting like a lib; n00b!

She was where she was because of the damned DEI; not for merit! Her fault AND the fault of those who put here there! None of those DEAD people would be alive today, if NOT for that woman's inadequacies.

35 posted on 04/27/2025 1:57:26 PM PDT by nopardons
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40 posted on 04/27/2025 2:02:12 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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I don’t need a govt report to know this.


41 posted on 04/27/2025 2:02:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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