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JD Vance tells Russia and Ukraine: Do a deal or the US 'will walk away' - as chaos hits peace talks in London
Daily Mail ^ | 4/23/2025 | TARYN PEDLER and JAMES TAPSFIELD

Posted on 04/23/2025 4:32:55 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

US Vice President JD Vance warned Wednesday that Moscow and Kyiv must strike a deal or Washington will end its efforts to reach a ceasefire.

'We've issued a very explicit proposal to both the Russians and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them to either say yes, or for the United States to walk away from this process,' Vance told reporters in India, where he is on a four-day visit.

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'It's now time, I think, to take, if not the final step, one of the final steps, which is, at a broad level, the party saying we're going to stop the killing, we're going to freeze the territorial lines at some level close to where they are today,' Vance added.

'Now, of course, that means the Ukrainians and the Russians are both going to have to give up some of the territory they currently own,' he added.

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1 posted on 04/23/2025 4:32:55 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

BTTT


2 posted on 04/23/2025 4:34:36 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: marcusmaximus
Vance to Russia: last warning! Either settle or I'll surrender.


3 posted on 04/23/2025 4:36:33 AM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

I don’t care about Ukraine.


4 posted on 04/23/2025 4:38:52 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: Bayard
I don’t care about Ukraine.

Oh, why didn't you say so? Now we can end the war.


5 posted on 04/23/2025 4:47:48 AM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: marcusmaximus

Good to see that war is moving to its concluding phase. Unlikely that Europe will be able to prolong the killing without getting spanked by Russia.


6 posted on 04/23/2025 4:57:00 AM PDT by BobL
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To: marcusmaximus

Interesting to note the face time Vance is getting. Normally the VP is not newsworthy, Vance seems to be at the forefront.


7 posted on 04/23/2025 5:06:03 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Why should Russia agree to a deal if Trump is going to walk away if they don’t? This “deal” is just a face saving way for Trump to abandon Ukraine.


8 posted on 04/23/2025 5:13:17 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: BobL

Don’t think that this war is going to end because Trump abandons Ukraine. Ukraine is fighting for its survival and will continue with or without US support. Will it be more difficult? Yes, but Ukraine will continue to fight one with whatever support that Europe can give it. Trump’s actions will not cause the end of the fighting but an increase in Ukrainian casualties.


9 posted on 04/23/2025 5:16:04 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

Fight to the Last FORCED CONSCRIPTED Ukie Male!


10 posted on 04/23/2025 5:21:08 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: Petrosius

Couple be, but we’ll see. Finland was fighting for its survival too and the Soviets gave them a list of non-negotiable demands. Finland had to decide whether to give up some of its land and live by the Soviet demands (mainly neutrality with a tiny military). They capitulated and rode out the Cold War (and beyond) as an otherwise free and prosperous country.


11 posted on 04/23/2025 5:26:39 AM PDT by BobL
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Fight to the Last FORCED CONSCRIPTED Ukie and Zeeper!

Great Idea!!

12 posted on 04/23/2025 5:36:11 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (President Trump Decisively Won Popular & E.C., Celebrate Recivilization!)
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To: nathanbedford
Vance to Russia: last warning! Either settle or I'll surrender.

The war is between the globalists and Putin.

Sure, Putin would win if the war continues. So if your point is JD's warning isn't a threat to Putin, then sure.

But it wouldn't be a surrender for the America First Administration and America, which finds itself in its own existential battle with the globalists.

13 posted on 04/23/2025 5:37:20 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Noone asks the question of why should we care.
Biden/Dem meddling in Ukraine started the mess.
The “war” was to coverup the illegal Obama/Biden biowarfare labs the Obana/Biden’s were operating there, China, etc.
War Crimes.


14 posted on 04/23/2025 5:56:11 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Resisting criminals is a punishable offense )
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To: marcusmaximus

Translation of the Vance quote:

Either Ukraine accepts all of Russia’s terms and conditions, including elimination of Nazis, or we will stop all military aid to the country.


15 posted on 04/23/2025 5:57:59 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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“Either Ukraine accepts all of Russia’s terms and conditions, including elimination of Nazis, or we will stop all military aid to the country.”

Well stated.


16 posted on 04/23/2025 6:00:54 AM PDT by BobL
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To: FreeReign

the Globalists only win if the continual war, death, and billions of flowing death bucks endures far into the future, imho


17 posted on 04/23/2025 6:03:03 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (!)
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To: FreeReign

Putin is a colony building globalist. The nationalists here are the Ukranians. Ukrianians want their own borders, langauge and culture while Putin’s genocidal Kremlin regime wants to again erase it.


18 posted on 04/23/2025 6:05:20 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: nathanbedford
Interesting avatar and moniker, so I read your "About," the Schwarz-Rot-Gold waving atop it.

From it and of Bedford,

"...his magnificent frame reduced to a gaunt shell of hardly 100 pounds, fifty-five-year-old Nathan Bedford Forrest-fiercest and arguably most brilliant icon in the Confederate military pantheon-had accepted at last the Christian faith of his family's women and begun to sound repentant. A fellow Confederate general who saw him during this twilight of his strength found the once demonic warrior possessing "the gentleness of expression, the voice and manner of a woman."

"I am not the man you... knew," he told a former military aid who hadn't seen him in years.

So are you akin to the "demonic warrior" or "reduced to a gaunt shell" sort of fellow? Now 77, I surely am not who I was, but cheering for war is not my ex-Army mentality.

Given the German flag, you might cheer on Merz after Scholz? Or the German liaison with Macron and Starmer? If Vice President Vance isn't on their team seemingly, where does that leave Merz and the coming next coalition government? Ready to march into the land battle? Like a "demonic warrior?" Or in a "twilight of his strength?"

19 posted on 04/23/2025 6:06:08 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: epluribus_2

Quite the opposite. The only way the EU wins is if they get cheap Russian energy to again finance their Globohomo and Anti American agenda.


20 posted on 04/23/2025 6:06:38 AM PDT by lodi90
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