Posted on 04/22/2025 11:31:06 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
Russian President Vladimir Putin has offered to halt his invasion of Ukraine across the current front line as part of efforts to reach a peace deal with U.S. President Donald Trump, the Financial Times reported on Tuesday citing people familiar with the matter.
Putin told Steve Witkoff, Trump’s special envoy, during a meeting in St Petersburg earlier this month that Moscow could relinquish its claims to areas of four partly occupied Ukrainian regions that remain under Kyiv’s control, the report said citing three people familiar with the talks.
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The Russian conditions are: disarm the AFU and bring it down to 80,000 military with only defensive weapons.
Removal and deNazification of Ukraine and no more Bandaras idealogy.
Protections for Russian language and Russia speakers.
Restoration of religious freedom and return to the Russian Orthodox Church all lands, and all clery released from Political Prision.
No NATO Membership forever.
No NATO boots anywhere for any reason in Ukraine ever again.
Zelinski’s head on a pike.
If one had to guess, the US, and the entriety of the EU are entering a recession in 2025; Russia is plowing along at 4.2% GDP.
You have been lied too just as was Trump; Trump now realizes that Russia is not going broke or being defeated by Ukraine.
In fact the only calculations Trump still believes that are incorrect is that the AFU is controlling the battlefield with millions of drones... Both sides are hammering one another, but Russia now has the upper hand in drone tech and tactics.
Trump is worried about one thing only and that is MAGA. He is not going to see his entire presidency held hostage to NEVERENDING WARS nor Ukraine/EU. Trump is moving to get the US reindustrialized and rich again with Tariffs.
Ukraine is going to literally be cut in half by the end of 2025, and Putin will be holding elections in Kiev in late 2026.
Some countries care more about land and resources than about their soldiers’ lives or citizens’ economic well-being, and that includes both Russia and Ukraine.
They are feeling their oats. They are either for or against Trump; Choosing wisely means one thing and siding with Trump and not Ukraine. We have an entire contingent here on FR that have choosen Ukraine. Worst still is that Ukraine’s greatest successes are it’s PR war and those who have been willingly duped by the lies.
All Zeepers think Russia is going broke... but the west in the one in the grips of recession and trade wars. Meanwhile not one single EU country can boost any 5 year period in the last 33 years with a total 5-year 5% GDP; Russia is pumping out 4.2%.
Trump needs to save MAGA, not Ukraine. Those are Trump’s two choices, Ukraine or his Agenda.
How much was the USAID Budget? Politico could not make payroll when USAID funding stopped.
Guess what. Illegally, the DNC own newspaper got more than 10M from the USG for anti-American, Anti-Christian, Pro-Marxist propoganda.
Russia does get to keep them. In fact the next 18-months are going to settle, on the battlefield, the question of Ukrainian existance. It will be a rump state, and Moscow will be the one determining who can run for office in Kiev. The Zelinski govt will go into exile in England and the EU will never recognize their central bank losses, but even worst than seizing Russian Funds... everyone who invested in Ukriane will write off their “assets”. Brits 1.1T; France 800B, US Blackrock 378B and the other 10 EFTS down for 1.6T.
Get your BTC and forget about Ukraine.
If Russia stops fighting, there will be no more war. If Ukraine stops fighting, there will be no more Ukraine.
Putin himself has repeatedly made clear that he denies Ukraine's right to exist and is determined to extinguish Ukrainian statehood.
Putin in 2021 posted a 5,000 world essay on why Ukrainian statehood was a historical mistake.
He’s going to choose America.
“If one had to guess, the US, and the entriety of the EU are entering a recession in 2025; Russia is plowing along at 4.2% GDP.”
Even though I have posted recent LOWER numbers you keep posting outdated info.
Russia is keeping its wartime economy afloat by selling off liquid assets. Assets which have been depleted.
“You have been lied too just as was Trump; Trump now realizes that Russia is not going broke or being defeated by Ukraine.”
This summer, intelligence officials warned that Russia was using unwitting Americans to spread its propaganda by adapting it to fit existing social debates within the U.S. Instead of creating new conflicts, Russia has found success by identifying and exaggerating existing divides, tailoring disinformation accordingly. When successful, Russia can get Americans to spread its talking points for free, without them even knowing their source.
Stalin was unable to extinguish Germany in its entirety. A neutral rump Ukraine state would be fine with many western leaders and their citizens.
Those who insist on permanent war will be voted out, as long as EU countries will allow free and fair elections (which may become debatable within the next decade).
AP = Always Propaganda
This is the only reasonable solution to freeze the lines where they are to become the new borders....This proxy war on Russia needs to end.
TG is an insincere troll that is new to the Ukraine threads.
TG, when I think of Liquid Assets it is NG and Oil. Russia is 1/7th of the world’s landmass - I doubt that they lack anything.
The guy running the show in Russia since 2000 has increased the standard of living 15x, by some accounts 10x, but at any rate the US and EU are mired in self inflected financial pain. There is a reason they reelect Putin, he has raised their standard of living.
It is not propoganda or outdated that Russia is north of 4% GDP this year, again.
Sanctions do not hurt Russia as people in the west are led to believe. Russia has historically been the most sanctioned country in the world since WWII. Russia long ago adjusted to sanctions.
Brics was a loose confederation of countries bound together by ONE SINGLE OVERRIDING LAW - No Country can Engage in Sanctions. Enter NATO Countries leadership sanctioning Russia and threatening to steal their frozen assets - the net effect of this idiotic idea has worldwide ramifications.
Today Brics is set to expand to over 100 countries. Saudi Arabia is concerned we might steal their assets. Brazil and India also have that concern. Indonesia and Thailand have expressed concern if they run afoul of the US, the EU, or Swift they too could be robbed. The EU themselves have actually stated that everytime they threaten to steal Russian Frozen Assets they are held in check by fear the rest of the world will disinvest from EUropean nations.
Trump is not simply going after China, but rather he is targeting without saying it, Brics. Biden’s lack of diplomacy allowed Brics to absorb 2/3s of the worlds population in a Barter/currency swap/metals swap scheme or BTC. Trump has to do something. Tariffs can be used not only to destroy his Western Globalist/Deep State enemies but also make those politicians around the world unelectable coupled with the impending recession. Brics is Trump’s biggest concern beyond funding the MAGA Agenda. Those 70 countries are Brics or potential next meeting memebers.
Listen to everything Trump is saying. The Secret Sauce has a special ingedrient called Brics that has the potential to break Swift and the USD as the primary reserve currency. Trump’s pivot to BTC over Gold is classic in this regard.
Trump’s has one single group of enemies all of whom are united over Ukraine against him. He is dispatching them all by walking away from Ukraine, allowing Russia to liquidate the Banks of England/France/Poland/EU and US investors aligned against him over Ukraine. They tried to kill him 3x and Trump knows coupled with the recession England, France, Poland and those EU autocrate Marxists will have be destroyed along with their economices by turning Ukraine back against them economically.
Trump is a master. I wish him well. He will not be successful in stopping the growth of Brics - Blinken and Biden put that Genie on steroids by their shortsighted decisions and lies. Trump will not end Biden’s war in Ukraine, but he will destroy all those who have attacked him becasue of Ukraine since 2015.
Trump told the world the US will have a great power sphere of influence; China their own, India there own, and Russia their own.
The EU will collaspe in Brussels within 7 years. Freedom of Speech is a major issue for England, France, the EU, Romania, Poland and Germany.
Trump has signaled by deeds and words that Ukraine will not disrupt or hold his administration hostage as his first.
Face it, Ukraine is a past issue. Trump is going to walk away. Not his war. Those who did it attacked him as viciously for opposing it in 2015-2024 as they have attacked Russia or conservatives. Ukraine will break the Globalists, the LGBT, the Facism of the World’s Socialist Marxists.
Cheap oil in the US will rule. Cheap oil for China and India will rule. Russia’s liquid asset was budgeted in 2024 budget at 60 a barrel, but they are selling more than they anticipated so their budget will not collaspe because of oil prices. Hell we can’t even shut off Iranian oil in world markets.
Russia made the decision during Biden forgoe any future dependence on trade with Europe or the US. Their aircraft engines are now being produced, microchips in 3d gen since 2022 and auto market is booming again.
About the only thing that can harm the Russian economy is becoming dependent on western sources and products again. Just likke the West, Russia has seen how good military production can be followed by the reconstruction. They plan to rebuild Ukraine without western companies for the next 30 years.
In other words, no Ukrainian independence and no Ukrainian identity.
Russia has been trying to do that for over three years and has failed. Russia does not have the strength to force the issue. Ukraine may not have the ability to regain the territories militarily, but Russia does not have the ability to break Ukraine.
Trump has seized upon a formula that punishes those who have prosecuted him, and it is epic. Ukraine binded all of them worldwide agianst him. Kicking the can out from under their countries banks, and their own personal investments, is going to be fun to watch. These vile people who wanted a war Trump was opposed also lined their pockets off the war, and their political careers were enhanced along the way.
Trump doesn’t even have prosecute them via DOJ even when they are found out to have been illegally involved in Ukraine (Biden family, Pelosi, Kerry, McCain, McConnell, Graham) as the financial damage as all those assets come unde Russia management just create opportunities for Trumps State Department in 2027 to cut deals to buy resources from Russia.
Get your BTC.
Too bad so sad, so STFU Loser
You are still full of Schiff.
Ukraine will get NOTHING back..
they are home
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