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There Are EVs And There Are Teslas. They Are Not The Same.
American Thinker ^ | M. Walter

Posted on 03/25/2025 3:11:35 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

It’s become vogue on the right to trash electric vehicles. And, mostly, we’re right to. Most of them are garbage retrofits that rely on a garbage network of chargers which are made by garbage ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) manufacturers who have absolutely no idea what they are doing. What they are manufacturing is virtue-signaling, not cars with anything even remotely resembling good EV—or any other type of—engineering.

And then there’s Tesla.

There are EVs, and there are Teslas. And though they are both clearly electric cars, they are two completely different animals. This article aims to give you a permanent mental “ka-chunk” when you think about EVs in general and Teslas in particular because they absolutely, positively should not be grouped together.

I’ve found it most helpful to analogize them this way: think of the entire ecosystem of PC computers and then think of Apple computers. Yes, they are the same in that they are both computers made up of software + hardware, but we all know they are very different animals for a variety of reasons. The most salient difference between them, for the purposes of our discussion, is that Apple manufactures its software + hardware under the same roof, from the ground up, to work together and work in harmony.

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Well, Tesla manufactures its cars like Apple manufactures its computers; holistically, from the ground up, software + hardware, with the single purpose of making one “organism,” in this case a car, a Tesla car, in which both the software + hardware work in harmony. They do this, importantly, in factories built to do nothing but build these rolling synergies of software + hardware. No other car company, EV or ICE, can claim the same thing.

And that’s why Tesla owners are as cult-like as Apple computer owners.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Travel
KEYWORDS: electric; electricvehicle; electricvehicles; ev; evs; firetraps; tesla; vehicles
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To: Omnivore-Dan

At home chargers cost a few hundred dollars, plus having an electrician install it.


61 posted on 03/25/2025 8:05:49 AM PDT by CraigEsq (,)
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To: redangus

“I don’t want to charge my car overnight, I want to be able to fill it up in 5-6 minutes, and I want to be able to drive 400 miles without stopping for 45 minutes twice.”

New EVs have 350-500 mile ranges (or more) depending on the vehicle. They can charge to 80% in ~25 minutes at high speed chargers. So you’re complaining about a straw man.

I do agree on the touch screen, and Teslas are awful in that regard IMHO. Not all electric cars are quite as reliant.


62 posted on 03/25/2025 8:10:49 AM PDT by CraigEsq (,)
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To: RoosterRedux

I think a lot of people don’t realize that Tesla is the only company that can make a profit off EV’s. Therefore getting rid of the subsidy HELPS Tesla and will make other manufacturers leave the market, allowing Tesla to be on top.


63 posted on 03/25/2025 8:54:47 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (You can vote totalitarians in but you can never vote them out...)
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To: RoosterRedux

The author is guilty of over stating his case.


64 posted on 03/25/2025 8:55:59 AM PDT by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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To: RoosterRedux

EVs = remote coal burning devices.


65 posted on 03/25/2025 9:04:06 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: Democrat = party of treason

The key difference between an electric vehicle and an electric power tool is that you can have an already-charged battery pack ready to swap into the tool. Not possible with electric vehicles.


66 posted on 03/25/2025 9:20:41 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (NRA Life Member)
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To: RoosterRedux

I appreciate hearing this explanation, especially as a devoted Mac user, where I know there is a difference, based on my experiences with PCs I had to use at work.


67 posted on 03/25/2025 9:24:03 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Cronos

There is force coming with electric cars.

California and a few other states are banning sales of new internal combustion vehicles in 2035.

The intention is to force us into electric cars.

The next time we have a Democrat president, perhaps EPA regulations will be put in place so this is the mandate nationwide. We don’t know what will happen. But we do know, in places where liberals are in charge, moves have been made to phase out gas and diesel powered vehicles.


68 posted on 03/25/2025 10:41:37 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Cronos

I’m not talking about the present US administration. Anyone could ascertain who and what I was referencing.


69 posted on 03/25/2025 11:44:06 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: CraigEsq

Sure, and then another few hundred for the electrician. Also you need to know if their are any local ordinances on how it needs to be installed or any permits needed. Everything included, it does not seem cost effective to me yet.


70 posted on 03/25/2025 1:07:25 PM PDT by Omnivore-Dan ( )
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To: CraigEsq
They can charge to 80% in ~25 minutes at high speed chargers. So you’re complaining about a straw man.

Most people don't want to wait even that long to not fully fill up their vehicle. Anything over ten minutes is probably the line for most people.
71 posted on 03/25/2025 1:53:48 PM PDT by Svartalfiar (-)
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To: redangus

Well, while some of your listed objections are actually covered in the Telsa operational system, fortunately, thanks to the Leftist NAZIs, you are no longer required to purchase a Tesla, or actually, any EV.


72 posted on 03/25/2025 2:09:19 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (“Time to Play Cowboys and Snowflakes!”)
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To: Tell It Right

Just curious, when you take road trips what is the ideal cruise speed for your EV? I live in midwest metro flyover area and I periodically see a Tesla cruising at +80 MPH between nearby metro areas...


73 posted on 03/25/2025 4:22:58 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: EVO X

I usually drive 5 to 10 over speed limit, regardless of if I’m in the EV or the gas pickup.


74 posted on 03/25/2025 4:29:53 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Svartalfiar

Most people don’t want to wait even that long to not fully fill up their vehicle. Anything over ten minutes is probably the line for most people.


The difference is that unlike a gas car, you can charge your car at home. So you’d only need to charge on the road if you’ve driven 300 miles or more on a single trip, in which case you’re probably going to take a break anyway.


75 posted on 03/25/2025 4:32:36 PM PDT by CraigEsq (,)
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To: Tell It Right

Thanks for the info..


76 posted on 03/25/2025 4:33:25 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: CraigEsq; Svartalfiar
Most people don’t want to wait even that long to not fully fill up their vehicle. Anything over ten minutes is probably the line for most people.

Part of the math for me is that when I fill up my gas pickup, I don't like to set the clip and leave it filling up while I walk away from it to go to the restroom. I had the nozzle fall out when I was a teenager, spewing gas everywhere. LOL But when I charge the EV (out on the road, not talking about my usually charging it at home), I'm comfortable setting the charger and walking away from it to go to the restroom.

So my gas pickup stops wind up taking about as long (5 or so minute fill up plus 5 or so minute restroom break) as my 10-15 minute EV charge up. But that's just me. Others might be comfortable having the gas fill up while they walk away from it to use the restroom.

77 posted on 03/25/2025 4:46:26 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

“I don’t like to set the clip and leave it filling up while I walk away from it to go to the restroom.”

In New York it’s actually illegal to leave while your car is filling like that. Almost all of the gas pumps don’t have clips to prevent you from doing that.


78 posted on 03/26/2025 6:22:11 AM PDT by CraigEsq (,)
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To: RoosterRedux
Thanks for posting that article comparing Tesla to Apple.

But the article's author got one thing wrong: Apple doesn't "manufacture" anything. Third-party manufacturers manufacture all Apple devices. Whereas, Tesla literally manufactures all of its vehicles, energy storage systems, robots, etc.

At least that's my impression from whatever I've read. If there are any experts out there who know something otherwise, feel free to respond.

79 posted on 03/26/2025 8:57:06 AM PDT by gw-ington (When will Soros-financed Democrats stop their nationwide domestic terrorism?)
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