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Statement From Worldcon Chair [Science Fiction Conevention Warns of Terrifying U.S.]
Seattle WorldCon 2025 ^

Posted on 03/21/2025 4:29:57 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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So, this is some convention for science fiction, I've never heard of but they are warning people about Seattle?


On what planet could people believe that LGBT people are more safe in Gaza than Seattle?

1 posted on 03/21/2025 4:29:57 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

World Con

No doubt.


2 posted on 03/21/2025 4:31:12 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: nickcarraway

Whatever floats yer boat, Skippy. Just don’t break the law.


3 posted on 03/21/2025 4:39:31 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve heard that Republicans are forcibly castrating gay men.

No, wait. It’s Democrats and they’re forcibly castrating preteen boys, regardless of sexual orientation.


4 posted on 03/21/2025 4:39:57 PM PDT by unlearner (Still not tired of winning.)
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To: nickcarraway

Science Fiction has always had a Leftist component, sometimes with a little balance from liberterians.

There are very few conservative oriented Science Fiction books. I am trying to think of some.

Perhaps someone can help me out with that.

In fantasy, perhaps the Lord of the Rings Trilogy...

Short range SF now occurring “The Camp of the Saints”.

Kurt Schlichter’s People’s Republic series.

Matt Braken’s Enemies Trilogy.

The Weapon Shops of Isher... More liberterian than Conservative

So, there are some. Where are those which incorporate Christian faith in the story?


5 posted on 03/21/2025 4:42:41 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: nickcarraway
Seattle used to be, in the not so distant past, the most livable city in the nation.

It used to be called the 'Emerald City'.

Now, since before it became the home of the 'Summer of Love' as declared by the lesbian Mayor of several years ago, it is a dump. No one on the East side of the Cascades wants to go there except for emergencies.

6 posted on 03/21/2025 4:42:54 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: BenLurkin
I dunno...maybe we shouldn't laugh them off so quick.

DayTheEarthStoodStill

7 posted on 03/21/2025 4:52:14 PM PDT by MikelTackNailer (Free compassion and beer tomorrow.)
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Off the top of my head I would say Gene Wolfe. I great writer strong conservative and devote Catholic. I enjoyed talking to him at the Chicago area sci fiction conventions and was sorry when he moved to Peoria.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Wolfe
I know for a fact he was strongly pro life.


8 posted on 03/21/2025 4:54:07 PM PDT by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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Why would Science Fiction have a leftist bent? I'm not sure why it should be political at all.

A lot of people consider Harrison Bergeron to be a conservative Science Fiction story, even though it's writer, Kurt Vonnegut, was not considered conservative.

Also, Nineteen Eighty-Four might be considered some, even though Eric Blair was not a conservative, he grew very opposed to communism.

9 posted on 03/21/2025 4:58:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: LauraJean

Don you see it reflected in his work?


10 posted on 03/21/2025 5:00:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Good grief, these people are NUTS!!!


11 posted on 03/21/2025 5:01:45 PM PDT by MAGA2017
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Of course this was based upon Elon Musks threat to round them up and deport them to Arrakis to be food for the sandworms.


12 posted on 03/21/2025 5:02:28 PM PDT by BipolarBob (My ex said I was a psychopath. I said at least I'm on a path because she's off the rails crazy.)
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To: marktwain

The classic science fiction of C.S. Lewis is of course pro Christian:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Trilogy

Most dystopias are anti-left in one form or another. They usually show central planning that goes awry.


The science fiction organizations followed Robert Conquest’s Second Law:

“Any organization not explicitly right-wing will eventually become left wing.”

They get nuttier every year.


13 posted on 03/21/2025 5:03:11 PM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: cgbg

I read all the Narnia books, but not that.


14 posted on 03/21/2025 5:07:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: marktwain
CS Lewis's Space Trilogy would be an example of conservative science fiction. (Out of the Silent Planet, Perelandra and That Hideous Strength).

Like all his work these are great reading, though very different from what a normal SF fan would expect. Partly due to the difference in worldview, and partly just because he was writing in the 1940's when ideas about other worlds had little scientific basis to go by.

I would particularly recommend That Hideous Strength, which in my opinion is a much better book than 1984, while covering the same ground. I'm not the only one who in recent years has expressed the thought that we are living out the world depicted in That Hideous Strength.

15 posted on 03/21/2025 5:11:08 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: cgbg
Didn't see your post, but glad to see others plug Lewis. :-)

And, duh, my screen name provides another example of a conservative body of science fiction. Orson Scott Card has taken a huge amount of flack for his resistance to the homofascists and his non-woke writing. Not that he really pushes a conservative worldview, but at least he doesn't have any "woke" nonsense. My understanding is that he's Mormon, but he is one of the few SF writers who writes intelligently and respectfully in his incorporation of various religions in his future worlds.

16 posted on 03/21/2025 5:16:32 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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My favorite CS Lewis quote—most here probably have heard it:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.

It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.

The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”


17 posted on 03/21/2025 5:17:51 PM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: EnderWiggin1970

Card has a lot of hidden Mormon “code” in his writings fwiw.


18 posted on 03/21/2025 5:19:25 PM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: Parmy

I visit Seattle every July. It is always beautiful weather in July. My daughters home is in nice area. Very peaceful & beautiful trees everywhere.


19 posted on 03/21/2025 5:29:59 PM PDT by Bobbyvotes (I am in mid-80's and I am not gonna change my opinions.)
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“our theme is an acknowledgment that we have not successfully built the future we have aspired to, but we are also inspired by optimism for a better future”...

This must be the person that wrote Kamamala’s speeches.


20 posted on 03/21/2025 5:31:30 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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