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Without Federal Action, States Wrestle With Kratom Regulation
MEDPAGE TODAY ^ | March 19, 2025 | Mara Silvers

Posted on 03/20/2025 2:16:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 03/20/2025 2:16:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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I’m proud to say I’ve never heard of kratom.


2 posted on 03/20/2025 2:19:46 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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I buy my mind altering drugs at the same place I buy my sushi—the gas station.

3 posted on 03/20/2025 2:20:25 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and His mercy endureth forever. — Psalm 106)
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Yeah, the feds have done great with drugs, right?

Why is there still this blind trust in the mostly unconstitutional federal gov’t?

I trust local state gov’ts much more than the pathetic, bloated, distant, careless, dangerous, and illegal federal gov’t.


4 posted on 03/20/2025 2:22:51 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Bath salts?


5 posted on 03/20/2025 2:22:51 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Jim W N

Good point. But how can we best protect people against predatory pharmaceutical companies?


6 posted on 03/20/2025 2:23:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Reports of deadly kratom overdoses have surfaced in recent years, though often in combination with other substances.

Aren't these the same people who were telling us a bit ago about "deadly Ivermectin overdoses" that never happened?

7 posted on 03/20/2025 2:23:47 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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From what I understand, it's hard to prepare?

But I also understand it could be a great way to wean people off opioids. But perhaps there aren't studies, because it's not patentable.

8 posted on 03/20/2025 2:24:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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There is a shop next to my favorite Mexican restaurant in Idaho Falls that sells kratom, CBD and similar substances. I never set foot in such places because I would lose my security clearance. They seem to attract the basement dwelling recreational drug abusers.
9 posted on 03/20/2025 2:28:13 PM PDT by Myrddin
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MO!!!


10 posted on 03/20/2025 2:48:51 PM PDT by muggs
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A friend of mine took this stuff for years. Until his doctor opened his eyes that it was causing his zero libido.


11 posted on 03/20/2025 2:53:49 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Looks like I'll have to buy the White Album again.)
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Hard to prepare?

The farmers in Indonesia grow the leaves from trees. They take of everything and ship it to the US. once it’s here you order from a vendor or as becoming more popular, from tobacco shops.

It is wonderful for pain.


12 posted on 03/20/2025 2:56:39 PM PDT by muggs
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Well, it's no skin off my back.   I'll forget it tomorrow.
13 posted on 03/20/2025 2:58:56 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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Government has a legitimate role warning people of the new hazzard.

You’re going to have people that don’t know it’s dangerous.

Parents that can’t identify it.

Lots of legit roles.

BUT, knowing our government, this is a call for action, a crisis that needs a government solution. Meaning a budget, sweeping authorities, manpower, codified penalties...

Government loves to grow itself. That seems like the only sector that truly grew in the last 20 years.


14 posted on 03/20/2025 2:59:36 PM PDT by Red6
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If they’re dong something illegal, go after them but the gov’t is a BIG part of the problem.

ONCE the market is actually FREE from gov’t bribes (”subsidies”) than there will be open competition to allow higher quality, lower cost pharmaceuticals.

Almost all so-called monopolies are actually gov’t-subsidized industries taking away from free and open competition.

Get gov’t out of the marketplace and restore the free market economy!!!


15 posted on 03/20/2025 3:00:02 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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The feds are less corrupt than the that of MA
16 posted on 03/20/2025 3:01:09 PM PDT by muggs
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HA! That’s a laugh.

NO state is more corrupt or illegal (unconstitutional) than the feds.

MA is LOCAL governance and the people of that state have much more control over how MA is governed than we the people over the gargantuan feds who can’t even govern themselves.


17 posted on 03/20/2025 3:07:17 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: nickcarraway

Kratom,a Thai word/name, has been popular and been used in Thailand for centuries . Thais consider it no big deal, but it is, last time I heard, illegal. Although not majorly illegal; mildly illegal. It’s easy for people to have a kratom scrub out behind the house, or in nearby brush, which blends right in. Not a distinctly visible plant, like ganja.
Mitragyna speciosa, it’s related to coffee. But unlike coffee, you do not harvest/process any fruits ( beans) . More like Coca, the leaves are chewed. How these leaves are processed and sold far from the point of origin, I have no idea.


18 posted on 03/20/2025 3:08:24 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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“But how can we best protect people against predatory pharmaceutical companies?”

It would have to start with the sincere desire to, but pharma $$$ ensures that that’s not going to happen.


19 posted on 03/20/2025 3:41:02 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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Aren’t these the same people who were telling us a bit ago about “deadly Ivermectin overdoses” that never happened?


That would be a solid “yes”. Big pharma is pi$$ed because it actually is “safe and effective” at certain doses and for certain conditions, and is less toxic and far less costly than their alternatives. They resent anyone cutting into their action. However, if it were to become a prescription item, there would be non-stop ads praising it to the heavens (and the price would increase 100X).


20 posted on 03/20/2025 3:58:48 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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