2025 FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN CHINESE GRAND PRIX Live Thread

3/19/2025 | chode

[Chode]

First Grand Prix

2004

Number of Laps

56

Circuit Length

5.451 km

Race Distance

305.066 km

Lap Record

1:32.238Michael Schumacher (2004) Track

[mabarker1]

Good Morning Sir, what’s the deal with Max going backwards at the Start ?

[Chode]

no idea...

he’s GOTTA pass hammy

[mabarker1]

He did, on Pit Stops ! And passed Leclerc to take P4 !!!

Nice job and congratulations to Team McClaren:

P1) Piastri
P2) Norris
P3) Russell

P4) Madd Max

P somewhere back there behind them) hammiebuttboi

[mabarker1]

🎶🎼🎵IT’S A BEAUTIFUL DAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 🎵🎼🎶

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/breaking-hamilton-disqualified-from-chinese-gp-after-skid-block-breach-as.6L1hYOxfmeSeNUnMpHQLaz

[mabarker1]

I’m starting to think that this would be a great day to whip up a 5 gallon bucket-o-margaritas and make some Nachos 😜🤠🤪🤣

[Yo-Yo]

[Yo-Yo]

Same thing that got Leclerc happened to George Russell last year. A one stop strategy that ended up with a car that was just underweight.

[Chode]

21 - 23 Mar 2025

Shanghai International Circuit, Shanghai

• Race
• Race Result
• Fastest Laps
• Pit Stop Summary
• Starting Grid
• Qualifying
• Sprint
• Sprint Grid
• Sprint Qualifying
• Practice 1

Pos	No	Driver	Car	Laps	Time/retired	Pts
1	81	Oscar PiastriPIA	McLaren Mercedes	56	1:30:55.026	25
2	4	Lando NorrisNOR	McLaren Mercedes	56	+9.748s	18
3	63	George RussellRUS	Mercedes	56	+11.097s	15
4	1	Max VerstappenVER	Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT	56	+16.656s	12
5	31	Esteban OconOCO	Haas Ferrari	56	+49.969s	10
6	12	Kimi AntonelliANT	Mercedes	56	+53.748s	8
7	23	Alexander AlbonALB	Williams Mercedes	56	+56.321s	6
8	87	Oliver BearmanBEA	Haas Ferrari	56	+61.303s	4
9	18	Lance StrollSTR	Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes	56	+70.204s	2
10	55	Carlos SainzSAI	Williams Mercedes	56	+76.387s	1
11	6	Isack HadjarHAD	Racing Bulls Honda RBPT	56	+78.875s	0
12	30	Liam LawsonLAW	Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT	56	+81.147s	0
13	7	Jack DoohanDOO	Alpine Renault	56	+88.401s	0
14	5	Gabriel BortoletoBOR	Kick Sauber Ferrari	55	+1 lap	0
15	27	Nico HulkenbergHUL	Kick Sauber Ferrari	55	+1 lap	0
16	22	Yuki TsunodaTSU	Racing Bulls Honda RBPT	55	+1 lap	0
NC	14	Fernando AlonsoALO	Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes	4	DNF	0
DQ	16	Charles LeclercLEC	Ferrari		DSQ	0
DQ	44	Lewis HamiltonHAM	Ferrari		DSQ	0
DQ	10	Pierre GaslyGAS	Alpine Renault		DSQ	0
Note - Doohan received a 10-second time penalty for forcing another driver off track. Leclerc, Gasly and Hamilton disqualified for technical infringements.

[Chode]

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[Carriage Hill]

I lost all respect for Ferrari, for putting that lowlife, racist scumbag into an F1 seat, for the 2025 season.

[mabarker1]

And it’s costing them mo-ho-money in all directions as the dashboard compass spins about like it’s in the Bermuda Triangle.

[mabarker1]

That thing in the middle, what’s the IBM Logo on the neck stand for ?

¿? Ignore the Black Monkey ¿?

[mabarker1]

Awesome weekend for McClaren with the 1~2 In Formula One in China and the 1~2 in INDYCAR at Thermal Raceway in kommiefornica.

[Lockbox]

Not so great weekend for Ferrari….. 😱😱😱😱😱

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[Paal Gulli]

The whole "skid plank" thing was a knee-jerk reaction to the crash that killed Senna, as was ground effects being banned for almost 30 years. All these many years later there's no conclusive "proof" as to what caused the crash, whether ground effects was responsible, or the broken steering column, or a slow puncture. Newey -- who has as much "Inside Baseball" knowledge as anybody in the whole sordid affair -- is open to the possibility that it might have been a slow puncture (there was debris on the track).

Being as a return to full-blown ground effects, complete with track-hugging lexan skirts, along with 'simpler,' less turbulence-sensitive wings, could make the cars as "grippy" as they are today (+/- 6 gs lateral cornering force), so the cars 'could be' as fast in the corners but faster in the straights (because of less wing-induced drag), so why haven't they looked into making ground effects fool-proof?

The knee-jerk theory was that Senna's car bottomed out, and when the tub contacted the tarmac, the under-car airflow was cut off and it lost all (or at least a substantial portion) of the ground-effect produced downforce. Which caused him to run wide in Tamburello.

So why not design a chassis that can't be bottomed out? Then ditch the skid plank and let them run full-blown ground effects?

I don't get wind of everything that happens in F1 but if they did something like this, I'd think it would be highly publicized (especially if it got to the on-circuit testing phase). Could be something as simple as a series of castors across the bottom, something that wouldn't wear or only wore very slowly when it contacted the circuit. Tungsten skids maybe.

I dunno, my engineering degree is written in crayon, but that one guy figured out how to "catch" a landing rocket, fer pete's sake! From an engineering perspective, the only things that are impossible are the ones they just haven't figured out yet. And this can't be as complicated as catching a rocket.

And what's wrong with unlimited adaptive aerodynamics? (screw DRS; that's just allowing the guy who's in 2nd place to cheat) That adaptive aero thing has been working pretty well for airplanes for 140 years (Otto Lillienthal's 1885 monoplane glider had movable control surfaces). What's F1 so afraid of? How about for once they try FIXING their historical problems rather than kicking the can down the road?

[Chode]

rumor central...

https://www.racefans.net/2025/03/25/tsunoda-to-replace-lawson-at-red-bull-at-japanese-grand-prix-reports-claim/

Tsunoda to replace Lawson at Red Bull at Japanese Grand Prix, reports claim
Formula 1 Posted on

25th March 2025, 21:13 | Written by Keith Collantine

Red Bull has decided to drop Liam Lawson after just two starts for the team, multiple publications are reporting.

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French Formula 1 broadcaster Canal Plus and Dutch newspaper de Telegraaf are among those claiming the shock change will happen before the next round of the world championship.

Both named Racing Bulls driver Yuki Tsunoda as Lawson’s replacement. Tsunoda would therefore start his first race for Red Bull in his home event at Suzuka.

[Big Red Badger]

Ole Liam...

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