Posted on 03/19/2025 6:08:28 AM PDT by MtnClimber
What if I told you that increasing annual influenza vaccination of the elderly is associated with increased influenza-related death in the elderly?
What if I told you that annual influenza vaccination can make you more susceptible to influenza-like illness?
What if I told you that deploying leaky influenza vaccines (into either humans or poultry flocks) will accelerate the evolution of vaccine-resistant influenza viruses?
What if I told you that the real problem with influenza virus-associated death in the elderly is due to the aging of their immune systems (immunosenescence)?
What if I told you that most of the 1918 “Spanish Flu” deaths could have been prevented if (antibacterial) antibiotics had been available?
What if I told you that most countries do not recommend population-wide annual influenza vaccination?
What if I told you that USG annual influenza vaccination policy is influenced by a desire to support and maintain influenza manufacturing capacity?
What if I told you that most of what you have been told about annual influenza vaccination is propaganda?
I have written about most of these issues before, but not as bluntly as I do here. I thank and acknowledge Substack author Sharyl Atkinson for triggering me to write in a more frank and plain style with the following Substack essay, which provides additional reporting and context for what I write below:

Background and Bona Fides
I am an expert on influenza and influenza vaccine development. I once held the position of Director, Clinical Influenza Vaccine Development at Solvay (now Abvie) Pharmaceuticals under an approximately $350 million US Government BARDA contract. I have won and/or managed hundreds of millions of dollars in federal contracts for development of more effective influenza vaccines. I have spoken (by invitation) on innovative influenza vaccine development at the World Health Organization in Geneva. I also have lost clients and at least one job for just (internally) discussing the issue of influenza vaccines and “original antigenic sin”—which is a forbidden topic among influenza vaccine manufacturers and the scientific-medical guild that supports this industry.
I fully expect this essay to be weaponized against me by the likes of Media Matters and Government (and Pharma)-sponsored corporate media. They already demean me as a spreader of misinformation during the COVIDcrisis, and as the vaccine—developing vaccine technology innovator who is an anti-vaxxer—and both sides (pro-vax and anti-vax) have called me a mass murderer for speaking truth to power. How much nastier can they get?
Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead.
If the “Make America Healthy Again” movement is to succeed, it must be willing to look the data in the face and not flinch from the obvious conclusions. It must be willing to examine long-standing assumptions and reconsider established public health policies. Because many, if not most US citizens are not healthy, and our average lifespan is declining. We are (on average) fat, suffering from an epidemic of chronic disease, and our massive levels of spending on “public health” and “healthcare” are not fixing the problem.
Let’s examine these influenza vaccine heresies one by one.
Increasing Annual Influenza Vaccination of the Elderly Is Associated with Increased Influenza-Related Death in the Elderly The main issue with influenza is “influenza-like” disease and death (morbidity and mortality) in the elderly, and in those with significant pre-existent conditions. In other words, upper-respiratory viral pneumonia on top of certain other conditions can tip the sick and elderly over the edge. This is similar to the issue of disease and death from SARS-CoV-2 (Covid) primarily happening to people that had other health problems—one of those other health problems being old age in general. People mostly died WITH Covid, not necessarily FROM Covid—same with influenza. And by the way, “influenza-like illness” is a grab bag.
For purposes of public health data analysis, in most cases, upper respiratory viral disease is typically assumed to be due to influenza virus. The inconvenient fact is that there are many viruses and other pathogens that cause “influenza-like” illness, disease, and death. Influenza viruses (types A and B), respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), parainfluenza viruses, rhinoviruses, coronaviruses, adenoviruses, metapneumovirus, group A streptococcus, mycoplasma, chlamydia, and Bordetella pertussis. The most common cause of “walking pneumonia” is mycoplasma—which is not really a virus! From this brief explanation, you can see that the cited “deaths from Influenza” data are usually inflated, just like “deaths from Covid” were.
SNIP...[This is a long article. The rest is at the link for those interested in the details.]
Interesting information to consider. I have never taken a flu shot myself, or the COVID jab.
What I dont like on some vaccine commercials are the statistical “truths” that probably fool a lot of people
Like... 1 percent of the population has or will get (whatever illness). If they don’t get (whatever vaccine), 60 percent will get very ill or die.
So it’s 60 percent of 1 percent.
Huge difference from 60 percent outright.
I never get the flu vaccine, and I never get the flu. But I have a sister who together with her daughter religiously get the flu vaccine every year, and they both get some kind of upper respirarory infection every year and most of the time their doctors (Kaiaser) do not check to see if their URI is the flu.
IMHO, immunosenescence is due primarily to leaky gut syndrome.
I’m 69 and never got a flu shot. Wonder how long I’ll last....
First rule of Statistics - Figures don’t lie, BUT LIARS CAN FIGURE!!!
I believe those things.
Haven’t had a flu shot since 2020 (and never will again.
No Covid shot, either.
I have never had one and will never get one, almost 65 and have not had a cold or flu since 1969 when I almost died from the Hong Kong Flu.
There’s this guy at work. He would get a flu shot every year. Every year he got sick. I’ve never had the flu shot and had a flu one time in my life.
That article is BS
And you know that based on what?!?
That probably gave you several strains of lifetime/near lifetime protection!
The one and only time I’ve gotten the flu was the winter when I got the flu shot. Followed closely by opportunistic strep throat. I missed several days of work and had to get a doctor’s note that I was actually sick and being treated. At the time, I needed that paycheck badly, so missing even one day was hard on me.
First, I stopped reading when the recommendation to take antibiotics for viral infections popped up. This kind of crap just adds to a few of the things that make a small number of people on “our side” look like fools. Along with those who wander out of the woods to recommend taking antiparasitic medicine for viruses.
I agree. There is statistical data out there that supports both sides of this. It's difficult to sift out the wheat from the chaff.
When I was young, my parents did not get the flu shot until one year that they had the flu bad. We all got the shot after, until a few years later when we all had the flu. My parents continued to get the shot but I haven't since. I can't honestly tell you, from my experience, one way or the other.
Do you realize the number of elderly people, especially, they killed during “Covid” by treating all pneumonia as “Covid” and thus viral—and withholding antibiotics?
BTW I’m not a fan of Malone, whom I consider to be a limited hangout.
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No evidence of that, either. I’m sure some Covid cases were misdiagnosed at first. I lost a close family member to it. There were no vaccines available at the time, and I’m not sure that would have saved her anyway, she had some other health issues. But it’s bad that she died suffocating under a respirator. My extended family members and friends are all conservative/Republicans, and I’ve seen a number of different approaches to Covid. I don’t support any kind of mandates, and i respect people’s right to choose whatever kind of treatment they want, or none at all. Had the family member I lost been in better general health, though, and someone had convinced her to either take wrong treatment or a wrong preventative measure, I would have had a real problem with that. But, yes, treating Covid as pneumonia won’t work, and neither will vice-versa. And parasitic treatments won’t work for either one, but may make a patient better if they also have worms, scabies or lice, along with the other illness...
Oh, my. How can you be on Free Republic and still have missed the clear evidence that deadly hospital protocols and incentives are what killed the elderly early on to justify all the crap to follow?
I am very sorry about your loss. But it was almost assuredly the “treatment” that did your family member in. They can’t even diagnose such a thing as “Covid”, since the PCR test is bogus, and they extended it to include pretty much any symptom, as well as no symptoms at all, as part of the diagnosed disease.
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