Posted on 03/07/2025 8:21:32 AM PST by SunkenCiv
A more than 500-year-old shipwreck off the coast of Sweden isn't a Viking vessel after all, scientists have found.
A 15th-century shipwreck off the coast of Sweden may be Scandinavia's oldest shipwreck built in the innovative "carvel" style — a design that gave it the strength to carry heavy cannons, archaeologists say.
The wreck at Landfjärden, south of Stockholm, is one of five in the area that have been known since the 1800s. They were commonly thought to have been from ships dating to the Viking Age (A.D. 793 to 1066).
But last year, maritime archaeologists at Vrak, the museum of wrecks in Stockholm, revealed that four of the wrecks date to the 1600s and 1700s and that the oldest wreck was built before 1480 and perhaps as early as the 1460s, museum curator and project manager Håkan Altrock said in a statement.
"It's a large ship, likely about 35 metres [115 feet] long and 10 metres [33 feet] wide," he said. "The ship's frame still rises high above the seabed, and in the stern, both the sternpost and rudder remain upright."
The most significant aspect of the wreck, now known as "Vrak 5," is that it was built in the "carvel" style, with planks on the hull that were flush with neighboring planks so that the whole hull surface was relatively smooth, Altrock said.
...the use of carvel-style flush planks — an innovation from the Mediterranean dating to about the seventh century A.D. — meant that a ship's hull could be reinforced with framing to make it stronger. This was an important consideration when ships started carrying cannons in the 15th century, Altrock said, so traditional "clinker-built" ships soon became obsolete.
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This style of construction was not used in the Viking era. Also, the size of the vessel --- too large for a Viking longboat, imho.
LOL
What were they doing playing football in Connecticut?
Thanks, my fifth grade world history went into fair detail on William's exploits, but neglected as much both Saxon and Viking exploits. Looks like William benefited from a multi-claimant feeding frenzy over the English throne of Edward the Confessor.
That would be honest, maybe fun, but too overflowing with toxic masculine energy. For the most part they just make a Youtube content series calling anyone that doesnt agree with them racist.
They had other things to do in 1880.
I’m no king, but he’s in my genealogical attic. It’s one of the risks ya take when you look. :^)
*You* lost the thread... :^D
Icing of arms and the man...
“”carvel” style”
Do they mean Caravel?
Yes, "Franglais" — Anglo-Norman
Anglo-Norman refers to the Normans who lived in England after the Norman conquest of 1066.[quote taken from Brave Search]The term also denotes the form of Anglo-French used by these Anglo-Normans. Anglo-Norman was a dialect of Old Norman used in England and parts of Great Britain and Ireland during the Anglo-Norman period.
Thanks. The Normans thought Old English speakers sounded like barking dogs. Of course, there were already pubs all over the country by the 11th century. :^)
https://www.babbel.com/en/magazine/franglais
That’s DUKE William to you mate !
Yeah, I saw that after I posted. Never knew.
Not meaning to steer the thread off, I gotta add my favorite J.W. fight- “Mclintock”.
Heh heh... she’d had a c-section I think it was, not long before they started filming that movie.
Amazing….
The fight at the clay slide, I didn’t even think about that one ‘til now — both the coal shovel fight near the end and the clay slide fight are great!
I enjoyed the fight in The Quiet Man, where they stopped midway for a beer.
I’ll have to watch that one.
Yes, oh, and “North to Alaska” was pretty good!
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