Scientists realize 'Viking' shipwreck is something else entirely

Live Science ^ | March 5, 2025 | Tom Metcalfe

[SunkenCiv]

Two diagrams of the shipwreck.

Image credit: Alexander Rauscher and Jim Hansson

[SunkenCiv]

[Buttons12]

As medieval ships go...that must be the SS Rosa DeLauro.

[Red Badger]

[Red Badger]

[Carry_Okie]

They were commonly thought to have been from ships dating to the Viking Age (A.D. 793 to 1066).

Interesting that the date bracketing a seafaring power would be the successful Norseman land battle at Hastings.

[ClearCase_guy]

built in the innovative "carvel" style

Well, I learned something here. At first I thought this was a spelling mistake. I am familiar with the caravel type of ship used by the Portuguese and Spanish. I didn't know about "carvel". Turns out it's significant.

[SunkenCiv]

The unsuccessful Battle of Stamford Bridge is why the end of the bracket is there.

The Normans had some Viking roots, hence their violence and short-lived House of Normandy in England, but were French speakers.

[AzSteven]

Interesting that the date bracketing a seafaring power would be the successful Norseman land battle at Hastings.

The Battle of Stamford Bridge, shortly before Hastings, was a resounding defeat for one of the last Viking armies. It was the last time a full invasion fleet was assembled and sent to England or Europe by the Vikings.

[SunkenCiv]

Same here. I thought at first that it was a typo. Now, it could be that Caravel is some kind of alt-spelling or variant type, dunno. Clinker-built includes sewn boats, which is a very old tradition, but as tonnage went up, things changed.

[SunkenCiv]

What AzSteven said. :^)

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Scientists having a heated discussion about the type of ship they found.

[SunkenCiv]

:^)

One that comes back to me is when Hagar came home to his wife and gave her a lock for their home. He’d been On the Vik and sacked a castle that had the lock. How’d you get it? It was easy, I just pulled it out. :^D

[SunkenCiv]

My favorite John Wayne fistfight is the one that takes up the last, I dunno, 20% of “The Quiet Man”. :^) Also the bar fight in “Hellfighters” is amusing.

[martin_fierro]

Scandinavia's oldest shipwreck built in the innovative "carvel" style

It was at this point that I lost the thread.

[lowbridge]

What's Carvel style?

[Carry_Okie]

Clinker hulls have the planks riveted together, typically with copper. Carvel hulls require calking, starting with fiber (such as cotton or okum) driven into a beveled butt joint with a carefully managed gap between planks and then a sealant (from tar to modern elastomers). Both leak like a seive when put into the water dry as the wood swells. If a carvel hull is too tight when dry, it can pop fasteners. Its assembly must be to much more careful tolerances in planking.

[Verginius Rufus]

All of the later kings of England are descended from William of Normandy (a.k.a. William the Bastard).

[rarestia]

Came here to comment the same thing. Never knew about the carvels. Thought they were referring to Fudgie the Whale.