Posted on 03/04/2025 3:48:12 AM PST by MtnClimber
Elon Musk spoke with Joe Rogan over the weekend, and had some powerful thoughts on illegals and entitlements fraud.
After six weeks of uncovering untold horrors of waste, fraud and abuse in government through the DOGE project, Elon Musk spoke with Joe Rogan over the weekend about what he has learned from it:
According to the RealClearPolitics transcript:
ELON MUSK: At the heart of the sort of like, why is the Democrat propaganda machine so fired up to destroy me? That's the main reason. The main reason is that, is that, entitlements fraud, that includes, like, Social Security, disability, Medicaid, entitlements fraud for illegal aliens is what is serving as a gigantic magnetic force to pull people in from all around the world and keep them here.
Basically, if you pay people, at a standard of living that is above 90% of Earth, then you have a very powerful incentive for 90% of Earth to come here and to stay here. But if you if you end the illegal alien fraud, then you that you turn off that magnet, and they leave. And they they stop coming, and the and the ones that are here, many of them will simply leave.
And if that happens, a mass they will lose a massive number of Democratic voters.
This corresponds to numerous observations he's made as he's gone along in the DOGE process about massive numbers of Social Security going to places like Ukraine and other unlikely retirement destinations.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
That’s part of it, but I would argue clearly the main reason is to overwhelm the system, to bankrupt cities and communities and states. To overthrow the existing order. They said long ago that’s what they wanted to do. They explained how they wanted to do it, and have been doing just that. The “Cloward-Piven Strategy” was first published in 1966 iirc.
As any sane person could realize “You can have open borders. You can have a welfare state. You can’t have both”. It isn’t any more complicated than that. They want uncontested One Party rule, and an end to self-rule, or sovereign states.
BINGO !!! Great Interview!
And therein lies the rub. That goal requires the Federill grub-a-mint to usurp the power to control who gets to work and who does not. That's one hell of an extra-Constitutional power. Do you want that? I sure as hell don't.
That is the real penalty for having allowed Democrats to import illegals. Republicans did that for cheap labor, because Democrats and RINOs at the behest of Wall Street were exporting jobs and with them the dollars and technology to make anything, technology that had been created by the people. That made foreign corporations competitive.
In effect, the process replaced people with capital, which the Fed had made virtually free, ripping off the public with inflation. We see it now coming with AI, something we MUST build to stay competitive because of the loaded cost of our labor. That coerced load was placed politically: of which Social Security, Medicare, and military protection of foreign investments are chief. If we don't figure out how to employ people displaced by that demand, we face real chaos (and I do have a plan for that BTW).
In effect, this socialization of risk, savings, and safe transport was fed by a ripoff of intellectual property for which corporate owners had never rewarded their people individually (why they had discounted its value) but instead socialized that too. I contemplate that economic principle every time I crack open a Machinery's Handbook: All that data, all those drawings and specifications on how to make ANYTHING, right there in one book. I'd bet there are copies all over China and India.
Correct on Fetterman. He is the new Joe Manchin.
Legal workers already have to very well identify themselves and file federal papers in order to begin a job anywhere. The issue is simply identifying those who don’t have such correct documents.
And we need to send home the 10s of millions of illegals working here presently. That will reduce our surplus of low-skill workers.
And supplies Mexico and other countries with vast amounts of money sent “home”
The loss of USAID funds and the money sent home will have massive consequences on these countries.
That toothpaste is already out of the tube.
You think those sappy ASPCA adopt a poor, homeless puppy for $9/month to show you care commercials were bad, just wait...
Started way back in the sixties when Ted Kennedy changed the immigration laws.
https://www.history.com/news/immigration-act-1965-changes
The problem is the system. A system that accepts high costs for general stuff for the military and the govt.
I spent almost 40 years in the military and did most of the ordering of supplies for my shop so I saw the figures. Additionally there were stupid and expensive requirement like minimum quantities of certain items when ordering. Smal examples, I needed to order new set of side cutters, minimum order 6, if I wanted to order RTV(with one year life, and would get stuff 6 months old already) the minimum order on some of that stuff was 50 tubes, and we might use 1 per year.
The supply system is broken, people only care that paperwork is good.
Friedman people spending other people’s money on other people. No one cares.
SS/ Medicare/ Medicaid/ welfare are the same. Is the paperwork good…. Send it
My wife got here Medicare statement and it had 7 colonoscopy bags on it over 7 months for a total of 3500. She does not wear one. Dr was from texas, we don’t live there. Called fraud line and woman said “oh yea that is a big scam going on right now”. She gets calls all the time for medical devices like back braces that will be “free”
Fraud and corruption are real, but perhaps even worse is the who gives an F attitude by the bureaucrats and GS-9s
I'm no demonRAT plant but you have to know that many small businesses cannot get help.
I have several personal friends that own plumbing and electrical companies and have more than enough business but not enough workers and they all say the same thing, the immigrants, legal or not, show up to work.
I grew up on a farm and so I worked {as much as a young'un can} as soon as I walked, it might have been just sweeping the barn or garage, but it was my job.
Most every older person had to work from a young age and so we are puzzled by today's yutes lack of drive {I blame the parents who are too busy with their i-phone to pay any attention to their kids}.
Find that for me in Article I, Section 8. It's a State power.
That means they aren’t paying the market rate.
And yes, we’re raising generations of barely-do-wells.
But hard times make strong men.
70% of our government isn’t in the Constitution, but that’s what they are already doing. To catch the illegals doesn’t require more from working citizens.
(I agree that they’ll try to make it so, just as they are weaseling in digital ID and currencies via “hip” crypto.)
Not an excuse.
To catch the illegals doesn’t require more from working citizens.
It would be a lot faster and more productive over the long term to organize a bounty system for which training the unorganized militia would be the start. Such a beginning would bury the Democrats forever.
The next step is turnout in the upcoming midterm elections, MAGA supporters need to overwhelm the election.
Yes, it is. I’m not proposing adding to it: I am proposing screening illegals from it.
Wake up!
Pass an Amendment.
Wake up!
I could say the same to you. You apparently have no idea how dangerous such a power can be.
Your papers please, or eye scan. Location tracking? It's all there, but you don't care. You'll make one dandy fascist.
Excusing the usurpation of powers is only the first step in a mental process that leads to total tyranny, just as background checks for firearms purchases that were supposed to be dumped became a Federill gunowner database. Good luck with that.
An audit of just seven states showed 1.5 million more votes than voters.
DOGE needs to handle our election system next. Results SAME DAY as the election.
Looking at USAID funding Reuters, AP, NYT, etc.
The ghost voters.
The left wing of the United States is a a DEEP STATE operation manufactured (astro turf) consensus through control of our media (using Free Speech against us).
We’ve been living in a coup for really decades now (back to at least JFK) banana republic and all of the tools used to do ‘color revolutions’ (we - U.S. tax dollars - spend $5 BILLION in Ukraine to install Zalensky after we created the revolution there).
ALL those tools have been used domestically by the spy agencies to control the outcome of our elecitons.
New plan was to bring in illegal invaders. England and the entire EU is full of them.
Report out this week they want to bring in seven million “emerging country” (invaders) to Ukraine to replace the population.
Bring in Muslims and Africans to rape the widows ot the men who died in a war the U.S. funded and caused.
There’s no limit to the level of evil with these people.
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