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What DOGE is really learning
American Thinker ^ | 3 Mar, 2025 | Monica Showalter

Posted on 03/04/2025 3:48:12 AM PST by MtnClimber

Elon Musk spoke with Joe Rogan over the weekend, and had some powerful thoughts on illegals and entitlements fraud.

After six weeks of uncovering untold horrors of waste, fraud and abuse in government through the DOGE project, Elon Musk spoke with Joe Rogan over the weekend about what he has learned from it:

According to the RealClearPolitics transcript:

ELON MUSK: At the heart of the sort of like, why is the Democrat propaganda machine so fired up to destroy me? That's the main reason. The main reason is that, is that, entitlements fraud, that includes, like, Social Security, disability, Medicaid, entitlements fraud for illegal aliens is what is serving as a gigantic magnetic force to pull people in from all around the world and keep them here.

Basically, if you pay people, at a standard of living that is above 90% of Earth, then you have a very powerful incentive for 90% of Earth to come here and to stay here. But if you if you end the illegal alien fraud, then you that you turn off that magnet, and they leave. And they they stop coming, and the and the ones that are here, many of them will simply leave.

And if that happens, a mass they will lose a massive number of Democratic voters.

This corresponds to numerous observations he's made as he's gone along in the DOGE process about massive numbers of Social Security going to places like Ukraine and other unlikely retirement destinations.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: abuse; aliens; doge; entitlements; fraud; waste; welfare
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1 posted on 03/04/2025 3:48:12 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

The illegal invasion was always about the “Replacement Voters”. The fraudulent payments keeps them here.


2 posted on 03/04/2025 3:49:53 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

BTTT


3 posted on 03/04/2025 3:56:11 AM PST by nopardons (I’m)
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To: MtnClimber

Democrats need voters. Republicans need yard workers.


4 posted on 03/04/2025 3:57:36 AM PST by MuttTheHoople ( "Never thot I'd live to see the day when the right wing would become the cool ones"-Johnny Rotten)
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To: MtnClimber

GREAT interview with Rogan. Elon also says he could be killed for doing this work. HOORAY Elon. HOORAY DOGE. Thanks for examining these corrupt individuals destroying this republic.


5 posted on 03/04/2025 3:57:48 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: MtnClimber

The way to get the vast majority of the illegal aliens out of the country is actually quite simple though it will be difficult politically.

1. Cut off all public funding. No housing, no food, no medical care, no education, nothing. They’re not entitled to anything given they’re not citizens and paid nothing in. Democrats and their propaganda arm the corporate media will scream and cry but most of the American public including key Democrat constituencies like Blacks and Hispanics will be overwhelmingly on board with this. They see quite clearly that all the money going to illegals is money not going to them.

2. Crack down hard on employers who hire illegal aliens. By crack down hard I mean very painful fines and PRISON TIME for managers, executives and owners. The Chamber of Commerce Establishment Republicans will scream and cry because there is nothing on earth they love more than cheap labor. The vast majority of the American public will support it though. They see quite clearly that paying illegals under the table undercuts their wages and steals jobs from them.

3. Offer all illegals free transport back to their own country. With all the money cut off, they will have no way to live. They themselves will come forward to accept transportation out. We won’t have to send in ICE agents to track the vast majority of them down. MILLIONS will step forward to be deported.


6 posted on 03/04/2025 3:57:52 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: MtnClimber

When they purge the voter rolls of all the dead SSNs, every state will be red. The dems are 25% of the vote in an honest election. There is no moderate dem anymore. And don’t give me Fetterman. The guy votes 100% with AOC and the Somali inbred.


7 posted on 03/04/2025 3:59:08 AM PST by HYPOCRACY (Long live The Great MAGA Kangz!)
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Anybody with at least two functioning IQ points already knew everything Mr. Musk is saying. In fact, Freepers have been shouting this message for .. decades!

But the "at least two function IQ points" criterion clearly leaves all liberals/liberTARDians/commies out. They're hopelessly inept hence, are open borders monkeys.

I hate liberals.

8 posted on 03/04/2025 4:00:28 AM PST by LouAvul (1 John 2:22: He that denies that Jesus is the Christ is a liar and antichrist. )
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To: MtnClimber

If you pay them, they will come….. 🤔


9 posted on 03/04/2025 4:01:54 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show host to me.... Sting)
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To: MtnClimber

It’s a good part, but not nearly all of it.

Gotta shut off jobs, too. Here’s Revolver’s take on the opportunity there:

https://revolver.news/2025/03/illegals-stealing-american-jobs-for-decades-one-trump-trick-of-the-trades-could-change-everything/


10 posted on 03/04/2025 4:02:34 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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Oh, and I’d dial it back on those $1T or $2T savings and any associated DOGE dividend if all they can find to cut in Defense is $80M:

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5174318-pentagon-savings-initial-doge-scrutiny/


11 posted on 03/04/2025 4:04:01 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: FLT-bird

Gee, peculiar that this is what we are doing, eh.


12 posted on 03/04/2025 4:04:04 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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Let’s hope they stick with it and are able to actually push through and do it in the face of what will no doubt be maximum resistance from Democrats and all their Leftists buddies in the federal judiciary.


13 posted on 03/04/2025 4:05:58 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: MtnClimber
Elon:

With (LOTR) Ent1 like speed and precision our elites are learning what we normals knew 40 years ago.

Note 1:

Ents are somewhat treelike, with extraordinarily tough skin; they can erode stone rapidly, but are vulnerable to fire and axe-strokes. They are patient and cautious, with a long sense of time; they considered a three-day deliberation "hasty".[T 2]

14 posted on 03/04/2025 4:07:25 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: MuttTheHoople

“ Republicans need yard workers”

The Democrats are the party of the elite and the dependent. The elite higher illegals to do their yardwork, etc. The dependent just take the taxpayer money but do not work.

Perhaps if we don’t have so many illegals here taking low pay jobs, teenagers will start mowing their own lawns and earning money by mowing the neighbors lawns instead of sitting at home playing video games.


15 posted on 03/04/2025 4:10:20 AM PST by Freee-dame ( )
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To: MuttTheHoople

True and well known for decades.

Screw lower class Americans.


16 posted on 03/04/2025 4:18:26 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Ukraine stands as a warning that countries must sufficiently provide for their OWN defense.)
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To: MtnClimber

The thing that Elon said in the interview that sticks with me is that the Justice Department sued Space X for not hiring asylum seekers when it is illegal for a manufacturer of high technology that is weapons capable to hire non-resident aliens.

Obvious weaponization of government. Why don’t the courts don’t penalize the lawyers that bring these suits?

Because they are part of it.


17 posted on 03/04/2025 4:26:01 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: FLT-bird

Either get rid of them or make them productive tax payers contributing to the community. Since the ones that do work mostly work for cash and don’t pay taxes except sales tax, it’s probably easier deporting them.


18 posted on 03/04/2025 4:26:46 AM PST by Omnivore-Dan (Shut)
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To: Freee-dame

High school and college kids that want a part time summer job find it hard to get one. The idea that illegals are “Doing the jobs Americans don’t want” is a liberal elitist phrase, and pure bs. I saw people who can only speak a few words of English working at a Walmart. Walmart should be sued. Other companies also.


19 posted on 03/04/2025 4:32:15 AM PST by Omnivore-Dan (Shut)
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To: MuttTheHoople
Democrats need voters. Republicans need yard workers.

F that. I'll do my own yard work.

20 posted on 03/04/2025 4:33:36 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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