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It appears these common procedures should be bypassed and other options considered: Local anesthetics, epidurals of that and steroids, joint steroid injections, and radiofrequency ablation.

I can say I know various people who have gotten better with UC-II collagen, disc replacement surgery, chiropractors, losing a fair amount of weight, and even following DDP Yoga videos. There are other medical options, such as stem cell therapy and the Discseel Spine Treatment, among others, but I know no one who had these performed.

Obviously, it would depend on what the source of the pain and problem was.

1 posted on 03/03/2025 9:12:11 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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2 posted on 03/03/2025 9:12:36 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Even with prety brutal back pain I get sometimes...Advil gives me some fast and good relief.

I wanted to know why and read how it works.

Very intersting and made sense.

I’ve had someo of the procedures mentioned..they never helped..but if they do help other individuals..then great.

I don’t like to use my subjective feelings and impress them on others.

But the experiments you mention include larger groups so that is pretty convincing.

That’s my 2 cents :)


3 posted on 03/03/2025 9:22:17 PM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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I have had one epidural for back pain.
It would have to be a cold day in Tucson, Arizona before I ever willingly signed up to get another.
It was dreadful. It was torturous. It was supposed to be treatment for pain RELIEF, believe it or not.
Talk about ironic. The procedure obviously does work well for some people. God bless em, but I can only speak from my own experience.


4 posted on 03/03/2025 9:22:19 PM PST by lee martell
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Wonder what hyperbaric would do?


5 posted on 03/03/2025 9:23:38 PM PST by goodnesswins (Democracy to Democrats is stealing other peoples money for their use, no matter how idiotic)
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7qwFjKYlbf4

A 20/20 segment where Dr John Sarno cures John Stosell’s chronic back pain.
He also cured my sister's.

6 posted on 03/03/2025 9:30:27 PM PST by CaptainK ("No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up” )
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Meta studies are dubious. Because you can pick and choose what studies you allow in you can show that the moon is made of tasty cheese.

Have known several people with back trouble who have gotten better with "epidurals, steroids, and radiofrequency ablation".

They have gone from not being able to twist and bend to being able to move freely.

Everyone can make their own choice in the matter but be cautious of anything that comes from a "meta study". Because mostly what you are being sold is what the bull left in the pasture.

7 posted on 03/03/2025 9:41:17 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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So many back pain issues are not resolved by clinical intervention. In general, very little has been shown to work.

Try a Deep Tissue massage! Can’t hurt, feels nice, and could have a placebo effect.


8 posted on 03/03/2025 9:47:25 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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I have severe back pain that has worsened with age (duh!) and finally got help.

History: compression fracture of lumbar vertebrae 40 + years ago. Spinal fusion and stabilizing rods.

Just lived with it until recently having sharp pains that would cause involuntary curses.

Stretching did little, an MRI showed stenoses (narrowing of the spinal canal). That got the ESI thing going.

Epidural steroid injections (3X) gave relief for several weeks each time. Pain guy says back surgery is overdone and wants to do the RF ablation thing.

All this messing about with my spine is of concern, but I am approaching cripple stage in what I can do other than stand and sit.


9 posted on 03/03/2025 10:31:33 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Your oath of enlistment has no expiration date)
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Reformer pilates. I have met about 5 different people who had some horrific spine injuries — one a former gymnast who snapped her spine doing a backbend, another a volleyball player who fell back onto the floor and fractured two thoracic vertebrae; another (my good friend) who had all sorts of hardware inserted into her spine to correct scoliosis — who saw amazing improvements after pilates. Several of those people went on to become instructors.


10 posted on 03/03/2025 10:35:40 PM PST by ponygirl (Stay gold.)
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Five minutes and you're right as rain.


15 posted on 03/04/2025 1:08:42 AM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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Bookmark


16 posted on 03/04/2025 1:24:17 AM PST by SE Mom (ScreamingEagleMom)
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How many people are sleeping on mattresses that are more than 10 years old?

Older mattresses often sag from the weight of the person. That sag will cause the spine to curve over time, causing pain when the person stands up and the spine must become straight. This would be especially true for people who sleep on their side.

Buying a new firm mattress will allow the spine to rest in a more natural position that will hopefully cause the chronic pain to go away.

-PJ

17 posted on 03/04/2025 1:42:44 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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For me, a radio frequency nerve burn every six months is the only thing that lets me walk without horrible pain. Chiro made it worse and two surgeons didn’t think they could fix me beyond 50/50 chance of success. Epidural steroids in between nerve burns as needed.


20 posted on 03/04/2025 3:54:15 AM PST by AlanSC (Guns have two enemies: Rust and Politicians )
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Personal experience here with chronic low back pain. I’m pretty much on a 6 out of 10 pain daily. Started getting the radiated pain down the legs and occasional severe sharp pains..only lasted a 1/2 second but had me flying out of bed or from seated position. Went to a pain management center and I crossed out several pages of paperwork and handed it in. When asked why I did that I said I won’t take any opioids or any other pain medication except ibuprofen which I take 400mg at night to help sleep. I take no prescriptions . Said I was here to get fixed, I’m not looking for a fix. They recommended the epidural and then nerve ablation. I said no.

I went to a chiropractor...a good one not the twist and snap ones. He said I can’t fix that after reading my MRIs and X-ray reports but I should be able to help with the radiated pain issues. 9 months later and that pain is gone. Still have the low back but the other is gone and I’m actually walking better.


23 posted on 03/04/2025 4:16:05 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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Kind of tired of repeating myself - my testimony on my
freeper home page or read some books on chiropractic.

I suggest 2 SIMPLE SHORT BOOKS FOR STARTERS:

Chiropractic, the Superior Alternative

Chicken Soup for the Chiropractic Soul


24 posted on 03/04/2025 4:25:21 AM PST by BrandtMichaels ( 1st Peter 4:8 "Above all, love each other deeply because love covers a multitude of sins." )
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I just had an ablation done on my lower back, after the steroid injections and so on provided little relief.
So far I am pain free.
First time in many years.
Its been 2 months.


29 posted on 03/04/2025 5:33:33 AM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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I’ve been the gambit. It doesn’t work.


32 posted on 03/04/2025 6:32:49 AM PST by GingisK
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bump for later


42 posted on 03/04/2025 10:37:20 AM PST by GOPJ (Delta just Bud Lighted themselves - freeper dfwgator)
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BFL


43 posted on 03/04/2025 1:02:37 PM PST by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31 )
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Having a back fusion done last July made it possible for me to stand for periods and walk my dog and exercise again, even though my back still hurts, I believe it was very much worth it.
I was almost crippled.
Chiro care was helpful until a disc blew out and would not heal.
Now I may get surgery my neck.


48 posted on 03/05/2025 8:25:31 AM PST by right way right (“May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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