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@thefernandocz: Elon Musk's pod with Rogan yesterday is mind-blowing. Let me save you 3 hours—here are the 12 most important things they talked about🧵
X.com ^ | March 1, 2025 | Post Conversation Fernando Cao @thefernandocz

Posted on 03/02/2025 12:35:37 PM PST by ransomnote

https://x.com/thefernandocz/status/1895997179132866942


Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
Elon Musk's pod with Rogan yesterday is mind-blowing.

They discussed:

• The chances of Musk being assassinated
• Who's really protecting the Epstein files
• Why AI could end humanity by 2030

Let me save you 3 hours — here are the 12 most important things they talked about🧵

Mar 1, 2025
 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
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1. The scale of government waste is worse than anyone imagined.

$1.9 billion was sent to an NGO formed just a year ago with almost no prior activity.

The US government is losing $2 trillion per year, failing its own audits.

And it gets even worse:

[ransomnote: There's a 1:14 video clip of Rogan asking Musk about his reaction to the size of it all]Mar 1, 2025

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
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Treasury payments worth nearly $5 trillion annually had no categorization codes or descriptions - essentially blank, untraceable checks.

A change as simple as making payment codes mandatory could save $100 billion yearly.

And here's DOGE's most shocking discovery:

[ransomnote: There's a 54 second video clip of Musk explaining to Rogan the lack of descriptions on treasury funding which Musk described as 'blank checks']

Mar 1, 2025

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
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DOGE found 20M dead people marked as alive in Social Security databases.

While they weren't directly receiving payments, their "alive" status enabled fraud through disability claims, unemployment, and fake medical payments.

This is potentially the biggest scam in human history.

[ransomnote: There's a 1:02 second clip of Musk explaining that the identities of those deceased but marked as alive can then qualify for other benefits.]

Mar 1, 2025

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
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2. What's really happening with immigration?

Elon believes Democratic leadership is using immigration as a voter recruitment strategy:

In swing states where elections are decided by ~20,000 votes, adding 200,000 immigrants who vote Democrat could alter the political landscape.

[ransomnote: There's a 1:14 video clip in which Musk describes Dem purchasing votes essentially and say its an attempt to destroy the country]

March 1, 2025

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
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FEMA, designed to help Americans during disasters, was paying for luxury hotels for illegal immigrants in New York - even AFTER Trump signed an executive order to stop it.

[ransomnote: There's a 1:11 clip of Musk talking about halting the FEMA payment to luxury hotels and the NY Government sued. Even after Trump ordered these payments to stop, FEMA still 'pressed send' on 80 million dollars in payments.]

March 1, 2025

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
3. Musk had a shocking realization about X (Twitter).

If he hadn't bought the platform, Trump would have never been allowed back, Alex Jones would have remained banned, and Musk's own account could've been suspended.

The 2024 election might have had an entirely different outcome as a result.

[ransomnote: There's a 1:23 clip of Rogan asking Musk to imagine what life would have been like if he hadn't bought Twitter]

March 1, 2025

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
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4. Musk's Mars timeline has accelerated dramatically.

SpaceX will launch several Starships to Mars by the end of next year (November/December 2025).

The goal: determine if they can successfully land intact before sending humans.

But why the urgency?

[ransomnote: There's a 1:06 clip of Musk explaining Mars mission plans]

March 1, 2025 

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
Mars missions face a fundamental time constraint. Each Earth-Mars orbital synchronization occurs every 26 months.

Musk believes we have about 15 such opportunities (roughly 30 years) to establish a self-sufficient civilization on Mars before Earth potentially faces civilization collapse.

[ransomnote: There's a 1:21 clip of Musk describing the Mars mission time frame]

March 1, 2025

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
5. The SpaceX astronaut rescue mission finally has a timeline.

The stranded astronauts who've been in space for 8 months (instead of the planned 8 days) will be rescued in ~4 weeks.

Musk revealed that Biden rejected earlier rescue offers for political reasons.

[ransomnote: There's a 1:03 clip of Musk describing the planned fligh and that SpaceX has been transfering people to the space station for about a year, and have transported 50 people so far]

March 1, 2025

 

Fernando Cao @thefernandocz

6. On AI, Musk made his most alarming prediction yet:

We'll have AI smarter than any human within a year or two.

By 2029-2030, we'll likely have AI smarter than all humans combined.

But there's a fascinating silver lining to this existential threat...

[ransomnote: There's a 1:31 clip of Musk discussing AI intelligence]

March 1, 2025

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
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Musk estimates that there's an 80% chance AI will benefit humanity. The other 20%? Complete annihilation.

His biggest worry isn't AI itself, but AI programmed with extremist values — Elon wants to avoid a world where AI "executes people for misgendering."

March 1, 2025

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
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19h
7. On the Epstein files, Musk didn't hold back.

The lack of transparency around the Epstein client list raises serious questions.

If Ghislaine Maxwell is in jail for sex trafficking, who exactly was she trafficking to?

But powerful interests are preventing disclosure...

[ransomnote: There's a 1:20 second clip of Rogan asking 'How can you put someone in jail for trafficking without ever naming to whom. Musk remarked it's 'common knowledge' and yet, where is the proof etc.]

March 1, 2025


Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
8. SpaceX is working on a technological breakthrough that's never been achieved before.

The Starship must solve fully reusable orbital heat shields - a problem no one has solved.

The heat shield tiles are as brittle as coffee cups but must withstand both extreme cold (liquid oxygen at -330°F) and reentry heat (potentially 1000+°F).

[ransomnote: There's a 2:02 clip of Musk describing the complexity of creating the heat shield tiles.]

March 1, 2025

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
9. Government's structure makes reform nearly impossible.

Musk compared it to becoming captain of a ship where the entire crew was previously your enemy.

This explains the slow pace of promised transparency:

Even high-level appointees like Kash Patel face institutional resistance when trying to release classified information.

[ransomnote: There's a 56 second clip of Musk saying he thinks Patel and Bondi are great, but they just got there, and they are in a hostile environment. He thinks we should give them a little slack there and says it's like you're the captain of a ship and everyone around you was until now, your mortal enemy.]

March 01, 2025

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
·
19h
10. Musk fears assassination.

Two separate incidents involved people traveling to Austin to kill him before his political involvement.

Now with mainstream media portraying him as a "Nazi," he believes the risk has risen.

He's careful about how hard he pushes on corruption.

[ransomnote: There's a 1:42 clip in which Rogan asks Musk about what his experience has been like with so much at stake/responsibility. Musk says 'stressful'. Rogan says 'These are real enemies' and Musk says there are posts on Reddit not just saying they want to kill him, but that they want to desecrate his corpse. Musk describes the hate his receiving as an 'anti-body' response and mentions them calling him a Nazi, and then justifying killing him because he's a Nazi. Musk asks why did the Trump shooter try to kill the President.]

March 1, 2025

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
11. The Trump assassination attempt mysteries remain troubling.

The shooter's house was "professionally scrubbed" with no cutlery or personal items.

He had five phones at age 20, and his digital footprint was almost completely erased.

Strange.

[ransomnote: There's a clip of Rogan and Musk wondering about the assasin - Rogan notes that there was evidence that a cell phone had been tracked leaving the FBI and visiting the shooter's home prior to the attempt. Musk notes the same of Epstein phone records - saying they were precise enough to tell which path a person walked along on Epstein's island. ]

March 1, 2025

 

Fernando Cao
@thefernandocz
12. Musk believes our future requires becoming multiplanetary.

For the first time in Earth's 4.5 billion year history, we can extend consciousness beyond our home planet.

This window may not stay open long - civilization could collapse from war, natural disaster, or simply population decline.

Mars is our insurance policy.

[ransomnote: There's a 1:16 clip of Musk explaining Mars as a strategy]

March 1, 2025



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To: Whatever Works

As with anything new, development costs can be brutal. It would take many hundreds of billions of dollars up front before there would be any revenue from asteroid mining and the like.


61 posted on 03/02/2025 7:51:25 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

I dispute your costs. Nobody thought an individual could fund a way to Mars. Musk IS our space program now. As to funding we gave away that much money already and are only now figuring it out. It could be funded by several individuals and/or governments over time. It can be done. It should be done.

How much of your money would you give to save your life or that of your child? The Earth is at a point where we could end most if not all of the life here if we tried. Or a celestial event could wipe us out.

It is in our best interest to spread out into the solar system and universe. We have the knowledge to begin. We have the money. But do we have the courage any longer?

We once took up the challenge and explored and conquered our world. It is now time to conquer others....if we can find the courage and curiosity our forefathers did.


62 posted on 03/02/2025 8:03:15 PM PST by Whatever Works (The real power lies in who counts the votes and controls the teleprompter.)
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To: ransomnote

Well, OK, correcting; thank you for posting the summary by @thefernandocZ.!


63 posted on 03/02/2025 8:07:56 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: All
Musk believes our future requires becoming multiplanetary.

For the first time in Earth's 4.5 billion year history, we can extend consciousness beyond our home planet.

This window may not stay open long - civilization could collapse from war, natural disaster, or simply population decline.

Our window may be now.

The UK is a great example of a civilization that's in clear decline.

It'll happen to us at some point in the future.

64 posted on 03/02/2025 8:09:23 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Whatever Works

You overlook a key point. What makes spending vast sums on spinning cylinder cities in space a better investment than any of hundreds of other large projects?


65 posted on 03/02/2025 8:15:38 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

I have already answered that question (and many others) earlier.


66 posted on 03/02/2025 8:25:29 PM PST by Whatever Works (The real power lies in who counts the votes and controls the teleprompter.)
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To: Whatever Works

You may have missed my point. The case for O’Neill cities in space has to more than a neat thing to do — it also has to be priced out so as to be a better investment than competing big ideas.


67 posted on 03/02/2025 10:46:47 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

I think saving humanity should make it a top priority, but what do I know?

It would also be militarily a strategic asset. Manufacturing hub. Way station. Out of the gravity well for satellite launch and repair. Low gravity medical facility. New materials font. A refuge if needed. And so much more.


68 posted on 03/02/2025 11:11:23 PM PST by Whatever Works (The real power lies in who counts the votes and controls the teleprompter.)
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To: Whatever Works

There is a big difference between visionary and practical.


69 posted on 03/02/2025 11:14:10 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Indeed. And between life and death. Extinction and survival.

If you don’t believe, I can’t make you. The dinosaurs didn’t know what hit them. The Titanic was the safest boat ever built.

History says it is coming. We just don’t know when. But the dinosaurs didn’t know what we know and couldn’t build what we can build. The Titanic was thought so safe it didn’t have enough lifeboats.

Currently, we have none.

What you call visionary, I call essential (which beats practical all to heck).

And now I’m off to bed. Enjoyed the talk. 👍🙏


70 posted on 03/02/2025 11:57:58 PM PST by Whatever Works (The real power lies in who counts the votes and controls the teleprompter.)
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To: cgbg

uberkevlar LOL


71 posted on 03/03/2025 7:10:53 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

Lol—you are probably on the right track.


72 posted on 03/03/2025 7:13:41 AM PST by cgbg (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: ransomnote; All

Thanks for the find/post ‘note. Thanks to all.


73 posted on 03/03/2025 8:03:51 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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74 posted on 03/03/2025 9:53:31 AM PST by bitt (<img src=' 'width=30%>)
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To: ransomnote

The greatest FR excerpt of all time! Love it!


75 posted on 03/03/2025 10:10:00 AM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: ransomnote
Treasury payments worth nearly $5 trillion annually had no categorization codes or descriptions - essentially blank, untraceable checks. A change as simple as making payment codes mandatory could save $100 billion yearly.

There's resson some of the wealthiest ZIP codes in the country are clustered around Washington DC. and why democrats identify with criminals...

76 posted on 03/03/2025 10:53:00 AM PST by GOPJ (Delta just Bud Lighted themselves - freeper dfwgator)
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To: PIF

I don’t recall any “refuelings” in our first lunar landings.

Once you escape Earths atmosphere there is no friction to speak of. Only course adjustments and fuel used for a soft landing at 1/6 Earths gravity.

Of course, it takes fuel to take off from the moon, but at a lower gravity.


77 posted on 03/03/2025 2:53:11 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: MV=PY

A. The Apollo moon orbiter & lander were not made of stainless steel, Starship is. Starship weight 100 tons dry weight. Super heavy booster dry weight 303 tons. Gross weight fueled for both is 5,000 tons. Starship is bigger and more powerful be far that Saturn V was.

B. No matter were you go there is always mass; the more mass, the more power it takes to move the mass.

C. Because StarShip has more mass than either Saturn or Artemis, it requires multiple refuelings to go to the moon and to return. Saturn V and Artemis use composite materials which are far lighter than Stainless Steel.


78 posted on 03/04/2025 4:12:56 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

B. The more power it takes to *accelerate* the mass.

I think you missed my point.


79 posted on 03/04/2025 8:26:00 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: MV=PY

Your point about Saturn V not needing a fueling does not apply to rockets made of Stainless Steel. More mass needs more power to get to orbit which requires more fuel which is more mass etc.


80 posted on 03/04/2025 11:03:39 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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