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Am I The Only One Tired Of Getting Into Wars We Have No Interest In? Why Do We Have Always Fix Problems Created By Europe???
OneVike ^ | February 1, 2025 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 03/01/2025 11:04:27 AM PST by OneVike

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To: OneVike

come on Chuck. you (and i) really know why:

James 4:1-8, NKJV

Where do wars and fights come from among you? Do they not come from your desires for pleasure that war in your members?

(look at some of the posters, commenters on FR, thank God not most!)

You lust and do not have. You murder and covet and cannot obtain. You fight and war. Yet you do not have because you do not ask.

(zelinskites, putinists, obie, biden, pelosi, bernie, schumer, graham, bushies, mccainites, etc.)

You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures.

(politicians, thune, johnson, mcconnell, msm, media, unelected bureaucrats, deepstate, CIA, FBI, etc.)

Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

(transhumanists, globalists, tech bros, lobbyists, weaponeers)

Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously”? But He gives more grace. Therefore He says: “God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble.” Therefore submit to God.

(praise and thank God!)

Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

(who resists? athiest europe, islam, pantheists?)

Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

(this, and ‘Fight, Fight, Fight...)


41 posted on 03/01/2025 12:59:29 PM PST by dadfly
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To: OneVike

We as stated bailed them out in WW 2. Gone are the Eisenhowers and Churchill who knew what freedom meant and cost.

Today’s politicians, minus Trump, are all in for the military industrial complex that Ike warned about so it’s natural that non US interests are continued mainly for $$$ and not peace


42 posted on 03/01/2025 1:04:08 PM PST by patriotspride (Third generation Vet. Never forget the true cost of freedom)
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To: OneVike; All

9-11 was not caused by our involvement in European wars.

Just like the Barbary Coast wars were not caused by our involvement in European wars, unless you count the Revolutionary war. (England stopped protecting us from the Barbary Coast Islamic States, because we became an independent political entity).

We should be involved in wars when it is in our interest to be involved in wars. It is always a judgement call.


43 posted on 03/01/2025 1:52:53 PM PST by marktwain
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To: OneVike

Exactly. And it is getting worse as the EU and most of its members are going full Fascist and are hell bent on a war with Russia.


44 posted on 03/01/2025 2:03:57 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Trump has arrived and it is awesome to have a real President.)
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To: dadfly

True and amen


45 posted on 03/01/2025 2:20:23 PM PST by OneVike ( Just another Christian wafor reelection to push for laws thatng to go home)
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Yet since the end of WWII, other than a very few instance, our military actions have almost exclusively been because of problems caused by European nations. (Both Western and Eastern nations) Mind you, I speak historically, so you may have to go back to choices made by European countries years before a conflict began. Some problems fester quite some time before the lid blows, yet the original problem was created years earlier.

Well, it goes back to WW2 (which of courses, goes back to WW1), in which the West, in order to shorten a war which was definitely was a threat to the US, the West aided wicked, pogrom premier Stalin so much that it became an advancing army which (via FDR's consent) conquered Berlin before the West, thereby obtaining many key scientists, etc., and enabled the Soviet Union to extend its control of Eastern Europe, taking over the governments in Albania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, East Germany, Poland, Romania and Yugoslavia. The Baltic countries—Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania—were made into republics. Even Finland was partly controlled by the Soviets. Only Greece and occupied Austria remained free. Russia also took a large portion of Poland and Poland in return was given a large portion of Germany. (https://factsanddetails.com/russia/History/sub9_1e/entry-4975.html)

Therefore the West has been fighting proxy wars with Russian off and on for over 70 years, as it is in Ukraine due to Putin's lust for old Soviet "glory." His claim that he needed to conquer Ukraine because of the threat of NATO (2-3% GPD on defense), while invading Ukraine only strengthened the argument of NATO as to warrant.

Meanwhile, NATO countries have overall gone liberal, while rampant corruption has long existed in Ukraine (as in Russia) and it drifts Left to please her allies. The US Left opposes Putin as being competition for dominion, and not being a team player, as he significantly opposes the liberal Left (partly for political purposes), though he hinders conservative evangelicals since they are outside the one true state church, and he is unwilling to greatly reduce abortion and use of contraception while facing a demographic crises.

However, only one country (outside China) is at present an ongoing nuclear military threat, and has signed mutual aid pacts with China, N. Korea, and Iran. With friends like that...

Yet the foundational problem is that the West needs to get back to God whom it now overall wars with, and needs to come to effectual penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating, justifying faith in the gospel of grace (Acts 10:43-47, 15:7-9; Titus 3:5)

46 posted on 03/01/2025 3:06:00 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Brian Griffin

“ A deal has to get made.”

Russia simply has to state their negotiating position. They are going to keep all of Ukraine they seized during this war and call it a day. End of story. Ukraine can say no and another 100k people from both countries will die and Russia will still be holding if not slowly increasing their gains. The EU can jump in and create WW3 and Russia can threaten a nuclear exchange.

We should be neutral and continue to push for peace.


47 posted on 03/01/2025 3:35:02 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Privatize the administrative state!)
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To: dfwgator

You’re right. The US established itself as a mercantile power early on by being to able to sell to anyone because it had no restrictive alliances or treaties with anyone.


48 posted on 03/01/2025 7:07:25 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: daniel1212
Yet the foundational problem is that the West needs to get back to God whom it now overall wars with, and needs to come to effectual penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating, justifying faith in the gospel of grace (Acts 10:43-47, 15:7-9; Titus 3:5)
,br /> This is the only deterrent, yet we have both read the Word and understand that even if Trump fixes things and leaves the country and the World in a better place, it will not last long.

The people will get fat and lazy again and forget what is important. Then they will elect new leaders that will be worse than the ones who created this current rest. After all, Reagan fixed things, and 5 years later Clinton came in and with the help of Republicans, he put things in place that became the genesis for what we are dealing with today.

Have you evet studied Singapore? Well sometimes I wonder if we would be better off with a king or benevolent dictator that the leaders Americas put in office.

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Now I am not so ignorant to think such a change would work in a county of 350 million people, yet there are lessons we could learn. One being punishment for criminals. Libertarians and Liberals don't like it. Yet history proves that the breakdown of a society begins with the lack of three things. Freedom to chose, the consistent enforcement of laws on the book, whether one likes the laws or not, a citizenship that is employed and financially stable for life.

The Best-Run Dictatorship in History: Singapore

As I stated this would not work ion a Christians based society where men crave full freedom, but the full video and give me your thoughts.
49 posted on 03/02/2025 7:42:46 AM PST by OneVike ( Just another Christian wafor reelection to push for laws thatng to go home)
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To: OneVike
Truman then pushed for the Marshall plan that helped rebuild ONLY Western European countries. Amazing how they conveniently left the Eastern countries to depend upon the communist Soviet Union for help. It is well documented that the Marshall plan pushed Stalin into a corner, which led him to eventually lock Eastern Europe into slavery for the next 50 years which led to the Cold War.

Not so. Stalin began enslaving Eastern Europe from the moment his soldiers moved in. The Marshall Plan originally included Eastern Europe, but Stalin refused to let the countries under his control accept it.

50 posted on 03/02/2025 8:08:57 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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The Best-Run Dictatorship in History: Singapore As I stated this would not work ion a Christians based society where men crave full freedom, but the full video and give me your thoughts.

Listening, what I gather is exceptional wise, long-term one party domination (13 consecutive elections) of capitalist leadership, fostering foreign investment (requiring English speaking helps), but extensive regulated economic freedom and confidence, yet with strict laws on disorderly behavior. And and a strong military, with required 2 years of service for males. Which Biblical principals, enabling rise from decay, dysfunction, strife and economic and social distress to a prosperous wise governed example of capitalism.

Problem with such is that leadership can change to be bad, plus it is vulnerable to China's military as well as war btwn Chicoms and US and thus economic disaster. Neutrality is problematic.

Most important, as only 18.9% "Christian," mainly RC, it should be seen as warranting more evangelism of holy faith. Only the true God can enable victory over affluence and adversity and affliction, prosperity as well as persecution,

Research:

What did Churchill say about the [1943] fall of Singapore?

Winston Churchill described the fall of Singapore as “the worst disaster and largest capitulation in British history.”1 On 15 February 1942, around 80,000 British, Indian and Australian soldiers surrendered to a Japanese force roughly half their size. Churchill was horrified.

How many Christians are there in Singapore?
18.9% of Singaporeans identified as Christians in the 2020 census. Of these, 35.8% or 220,900 people identified as Catholics. Among Protestants, the Methodist Church in Singapore is the largest denomination, with some 42,000 members in 46 churches, as well as Orthodox.
Does Singapore allow Christianity?
The constitution states every person has a constitutional right to profess, practice, or propagate his or her religious belief as long as such activities do not breach any other laws relating to public order, public health, or morality.
Is Singapore LGBTQ friendly?
AI Overview Why Singapore's gay sex law change is a double-edged sword ... Singapore is becoming more accepting of the LGBTQ community, though it's not as progressive as other countries.
On 10 May 2024, Singapore was one of the 143 nations that supported a United Nations resolution supporting Palestine's admittance as a member of the international organization with the statement that the decision was made after "serious and careful consideration".
Singapore consistently maintains a "One China" policy and opposes independence for Taiwan. We took this fundamental position even before we established diplomatic relations with the PRC.
Singapore is a parliamentary representative democratic republic in which the President of Singapore is the head of state, the prime minister of Singapore is the head of government, and of a multi-party system.
One commonly cited reason for a lack of opposition in Singapore is the use of defamation lawsuits by the PAP to bankrupt political opponents and disqualify them from running for office when accusations were made against the ruling party.[11][12] Cases include former leader of the WP J. B. Jeyaretnam and leader of the Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) Chee Soon Juan, who were bankrupted in 2001 and 2011 respectively.[13][14][15]

Another reason given is the pursuit of legal action against journalists and bloggers critical of the PAP and its policies.[8][16] Reporters Without Borders cites such lawsuits, along with attempts at making critical journalists unemployable, among its concerns when ranking the country 151st in the world for press freedom in 2017.[17]

The PAP has in the past threatened voters by saying that constituencies voting for opposition MPs would be put at the bottom of the list for public housing programs.[18][19][20] In 1998, then PAP secretary-general, Goh Chok Tong said, "By linking the priority of upgrading to electoral support, we focus the minds of voters on the link between upgrading and the people whose policies make it possible. This has the desired result.".[21] As recently as 2011 Lee Hsien Loong expressed that there has to be a distinction between opposition wards and the ones that voted for the PAP in terms of housing upgrades.[22]

The boundaries of electoral constituencies in Singapore are decided by the Elections Department, which is under the control of the Prime Minister's Office.[23] Electoral boundaries are redrawn just a few days before the general election.[23][24] There have been accusations of gerrymandering via dissolving of constituencies with relatively stronger opposition support, such as the Cheng San Group Representation Constituency (GRC).[25]

In July 2020, the ruling party, the PAP, won 83 out of 93 seats and 61.2% of the popular vote in the general election, meaning the PAP won its 13th consecutive general election since Singapore's independence. However, the result was a significant decline from the 2015 election.[26] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Singapore

How many US soldiers are in Singapore?
800 U.S. military More than 2,700 U.S. forces are stationed at the Prince Sultan Air Base. Singapore hosts more than 800 U.S. military personnel, civilians, and family members
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Is Singapore a US ally?
Despite the close relationship between the two countries, on 1 April 2022, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong stated that Singapore is not an ally of the U.S., will not conduct military operations on behalf of the U.S., and will not seek direct military support from the U.S. This was reiterated by Lawrence Wong in 2024.
Who are Singapore's allies?
Singapore enjoys good relations with the United Kingdom which shares ties in the Five Power Defence Arrangements (FPDA) along with Malaysia, Australia and New Zealand. Singapore also enjoys robust defense ties with the United States while simultaneously maintaining good relations with China.
Is Singapore communist or capitalist or socialist?
Singapore's government owns controlling shares in many government-linked companies and directs investment through sovereign wealth funds, an arrangement that has been cited as state capitalism when defined as "system in which the state functions as the leading economic actor and uses markets primarily for political ...
Singapore's government owns controlling shares in many government-linked companies and directs investment through sovereign wealth funds, an arrangement that has been cited as state capitalism when defined as "system in which the state functions as the leading economic actor and uses markets primarily for political gain".[102]
51 posted on 03/02/2025 5:16:18 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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Good breakdown.

I agree with the problems of the state run party’s loyalty to ideologies abhorrent to America’s Christian values. Add in their loyalty to countries apposed to our partners like Israel shows they lean heavily Islamic in their loyalty.

Plus their loyalty to China comes from China being 90% responsible for their wealth, so push comes to shove they would not cross China.

No manmade system will ever work in reality, because mankind’s true destination is to be with GOD.

Someone said that the most efficient government is a dictatorship, yet even they are only as good as the dictator in power.

You eluded to this. Yet one day the leader will inevitably be more dedicated to his power than the good of the nation, and that is when it will begin to fail.


52 posted on 03/02/2025 7:52:04 PM PST by OneVike ( Just another Christian wafor reelection to push for laws thatng to go home)
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Plus their loyalty to China comes from China being 90% responsible for their wealth, so push comes to shove they would not cross China.

You mean the US is only a minute part of this? i think not. Meanwhile, all that coastline is a big asset, as well as danger. Not much of a buffer state.

53 posted on 03/03/2025 10:45:27 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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I do not mean to say that, because it is obvious the trade from China to the US goes through Singapore.

Yet the close proximity of China does make them an easier target for elimination. Thus they will fear the Bengal Tiger next door more than they will the Lion the other side of the planet.

Even if it is foolish, it is a fact that they do.


54 posted on 03/03/2025 11:07:59 AM PST by OneVike ( Just another Christian wafor reelection to push for laws thatng to go home)
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To: daniel1212

Still, going back the the reason for my post.

After being screwed over by our so called allies for the last 80 years, I think it high time for Europe to defend themselves.

Especially in the last 20 years, their open hostility to us for wanting to me America first has gotten tiring. Too often European politicians play the victim card against America to get elected by their citizens, so in the last 20 years the majority of Europeans have grown hate us.

When my old friends turn their children against my children, then I stop being friend, and ignore them when they are in need. There must be consequences to their constant back stabbing ways.

For me, the final straw was when they joined the American left to destroy America by setting up Trump during his first term.

With friends like them we don’t need enemies, and we surely do not need to support them in a war they wanted to happen.


55 posted on 03/03/2025 11:18:21 AM PST by OneVike ( Just another Christian wafor reelection to push for laws thatng to go home)
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To: OneVike
Especially in the last 20 years, their open hostility to us for wanting to me America first has gotten tiring. Too often European politicians play the victim card against America to get elected by their citizens, so in the last 20 years the majority of Europeans have grown hate us.

Yes, , NATO countries have overall gone liberal, and fawned over Obama, and immigration and birth rates thereof position Islam one day being in control

56 posted on 03/03/2025 11:42:39 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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Agreed. At the pace the United states and Europe are going, by 2050, the Islamic faith will equal that of Christian faith in the West.

Most is pushed by the leftists in the West. So we either cut ties with them now our Europe military welfare addicts, will drag is down with them. Check out this short video by Victor Davis Hanson. The length is only 9:40, but as usual he is spot on in his warning about these so-called Western European allies of ours.

They Can’t Hide It: Something HUGE Is Happening in Europe
57 posted on 03/03/2025 12:32:51 PM PST by OneVike ( Just another Christian wafor reelection to push for laws thatng to go home)
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Most is pushed by the leftists in the West. So we either cut ties with them now our Europe military welfare addicts, will drag is down with them. Check out this short video by Victor Davis Hanson. The length is only 9:40, but as usual he is spot on in his warning about these so-called Western European allies of ours.

Listened to it, and one point i take issue with is the idea that the US need have no part in opposing a (Chicom, Muslim atheist-allied) nuclear enemy 5k miles away since (suicidal liberal) Western Europe is increasingly ideologically opposed to conservatives and should be able to deal with military threats by themselves. This tortoise-shell isolationism is ignorant as was the isolationist movement in the 1930's. Some today even question if US involvement in WW1 and 2 was essential, the latter with its alliance with a very ideologically contrarian leader (but which gave and conceded far too much), and that US military presence as in the containment of Chicom expansion is superfluous.

The problem with such isolationism is that apart from supernatural intervention, which goes back to the need for national revival of evangelical faith akin to past Great Awakenings, then aside from Starfleet of phaser ships then isolationism not practical for a nation being chastised for its departure from the living God, presuming it should continue in hope of future repentance. Let Iran control the strait of Hormuz and communists the S. Chinese sea and find out how that would affect the US.

For its part, NATO has deterred Soviet expansion, with and if Ukraine was part of NATO Putin - who longs for legacy Soviet glory - would not have twice invaded it. The question is, would Europe be better off under Putin's repression - which would only become more so if not opposed (there would be no FreeRepublic.com, at least not with posts as mine) than with the increasingly more immoral (in many basic ways) Left than Russia (contraception, abortion, alcoholism, corruption, etc. are still be high in Russia, and church attendance low).

While spiritually, the evangelical church is purified by persecution, but which both the Left and Putin provide against those whom the state church whether it be Wokeism (which is indeed a "faith-based" ideology, baptizing in the waters of wokeducation) or that of the Putin State Church with its KBG heritage (and since 2018,under Russia/s Yarovaya law missionary activities may only be performed without hindrance at designated churches and other religious sites by authorized members of registered religious groups and organization), and as poor than as materially sufficient, yet but as with slaves (who are more likely to be spiritually in it than as free and affluent), yet "if thou mayest be made free, use it rather." (1 Corinthians 7:21)

And the problem is that relative very few Christians seek to live holy (which I need more victory in) dedicated lives and evangelize, to make "manifest the savour of His knowledge by us in every place," (2 Corinthians 2:14) and to work the works of Him that sent us, while it is day, for the night cometh, when no man can work. (John 9:4) May I and we do so more.

58 posted on 03/04/2025 6:05:40 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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Are you sure we should stay connected to these fools???

Brussels 'Declares War' on European Leaders Supporting Trump — Russian Intelligence

[[[ The European Union’s leadership is obviously behind the decision to bring charges against Romanian presidential candidate Calin Georgescu.

Brussels is waging a war on those European leaders who openly support US President Donald Trump, Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) said. "According to available data, the European bureaucracy has declared a war on 'non-systemic leaders' who are open supporters of US President Donald Trump and refuse to follow instructions from the EU’s ruling liberal elites," the SVR press bureau said in a statement. According to the SVR, "Brussels is extremely concerned that the new US...]]]

I am seriously wondering what's the difference between the European Union and Russia. As for China, I can send you many news reports quoting Canadian politicians continually taking sides with China over the US, Trudeau being one of them . We are the Worlds power, we do not need the European Unions for anything. They need us. So we either force them to get in line, or cut the leash and watch them fall.

59 posted on 03/04/2025 10:37:56 AM PST by OneVike ( Just another Christian wafor reelection to push for laws thatng to go home)
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To: OneVike
I am seriously wondering what's the difference between the European Union and Russia. You mean you do not see the difference btwn a nation with whom we have fought proxy wars for 70+ years, and is militarily allied with Chicoms, Muslims and atheists against the US, with leaders which threaten to nuke us, and a group of nations we are ideologically opposed to but oppose Putin the invader? Rejecting the latter does not warrant being friends with the former, but as in part wars, allies are those which militarily would side with the US, which Russia is the opposite of.

We are the Worlds power, we do not need the European Unions for anything. They need us.

Actually, the US would lose in a prolonged war with China, to whom it traded most of its production ecosystem, and the US would be looking for allied help in a war with the Chicoms, and which would also involved N. Korea and likely Iran, and its ally, Russia. China however, is patient, since a war would still costly, and it sees the US becoming weaker each year, and with the military itself being alarmingly dependent on Chinese parts.

Under Trump, at best, the US can only be expected to stave China off for the next 4 years, and if the sacred economy is not much better, post Christian US is likely to vote for a "hope and change" democrat.

60 posted on 03/04/2025 7:03:45 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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