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The 1751 Machine That Made Everything
Youtube ^ | Mar 15, 2018 | Machine Thinking

Posted on 02/27/2025 5:15:07 AM PST by buwaya

An early precision lathe - France, 1751, Jacques de Vaucanson

Lathes are fundamental to modern science and industry. Every last thing in modern tech starts from that. You can trace European (and later global) "economic takeoff" to this thing.

ALL human progress and change, and history, comes from advances in technology. Religion, philosophy, warfare, all matter little or nothing, or are rather reactions to technological change.


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: industrial; lathe; revolution; technology
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To: metmom

Amen the blessings of tech that amplify sins can be curses.


61 posted on 02/27/2025 7:48:46 AM PST by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

My later career was in the main buying “hokum mixed with bunk”. Or rather, doing my best not to.

Been there, done that, over and over. The tech (even for very conservative DAQ/SCADA) is vastly different from 10 years ago.


62 posted on 02/27/2025 7:52:32 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya
"After 1865, I’m thinking. That’s the usual given starting point for the truly massive immigration waves.

1865 was when Henry Bessemer hit on his process for consistently and scientifically making high-quality steel (or 1851, if you believe American William Kelly beat him to the punch).

Man had been making steel for more than 2000 years but that was more art than science, hit or miss. The Bessemer process (regardless who invented it) made it possible to make more-or-less 'perfect' steel on an industrial scale.

Which directly cause one of the greatest revolutions in the history of mankind. And according to his 'hockey stick' graph, the advent of industrial steel coincides very nicely with the start of the uptick (and it bore no allegiance to the invention of the lathe).

63 posted on 02/27/2025 7:52:52 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: buwaya
The US simply wasn't significant to world history until it became the leading technological player.

The New World was immediately significant in many immeasurable ways, like new foods. The U.S. was so significant that it was born after a series of civil, continental and world wars.

64 posted on 02/27/2025 7:55:25 AM PST by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: buwaya

Mankind has always been ingenious with the materials which were on hand. New materials are necessary for the tech to go “forward”...wisdom to use the technology/materials to benefit mankind is more important than all of tech and materials.
Unfortunately new tech is many, many times used to kill many people and other living creatures. The “worship” of tech can be just as harmful as codified principles..


65 posted on 02/27/2025 7:56:07 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find. )
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To: buwaya

...but I very much like your posting. Thanks and FReegards!


66 posted on 02/27/2025 7:56:30 AM PST by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: buwaya

I still find it amazing that humanity went from the horse and buggy to atomic science in the span of 40 years.

I don’t know how it happened. Divine intervention? The Akashic Records exist, and spiritually gifted people found a way to tap into them?


67 posted on 02/27/2025 7:56:31 AM PST by sergeantdave (AI training involves stealing content from creators and not paying them a penny)
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To: buwaya

Thanks Sheldon!


68 posted on 02/27/2025 7:57:48 AM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: Theophilus

The US as a society, a culture, a factor to be taken into account in geopolitics - absolutely not. The US was in the main a curiosity.


69 posted on 02/27/2025 7:58:56 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: sergeantdave

The horse and buggy days lasted a LOOONG time. At the beginning of it world trade went by sail. At the end people were working on radioactivity.

Not a great example.

There is an argument that tech development is accelerating. I doubt it. Its more irregular than that.


70 posted on 02/27/2025 8:06:10 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: GingisK

I have a small POS (piece of ....)from Harbor Freight. I intended to bolt on some digital calipers for measuring but never got around to it. Used to have access to a full shop including a Clausing with gap bed and a Hardinge Chucker (my favorite) with Trav-a-dials.
Worked for a while developing a new motor for Servo’s power feed for mills. (cost reduction project using a variable reluctance motor.)


71 posted on 02/27/2025 8:14:26 AM PST by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: buwaya

Yes, I know. The NYT is obsessed with white racism.


72 posted on 02/27/2025 8:59:38 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: GingisK

Great electromagnetics list but I would have included Franklin at the beginning of that list, which undermines the OPs hypothesis of the insignificance of America and its founding geniuses.

The public library was the internet of its day too.


73 posted on 02/27/2025 10:09:18 AM PST by takebackaustin
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To: buwaya

Give me a lathe and a vertical mill..... I can pretty much make any useful thing. Make it CNC, preferably Haas, and I can really go to town.


74 posted on 02/27/2025 10:14:36 AM PST by LastDayz (A Blunt and Brazen Texan. I Will Not Be Assimilated.)
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To: takebackaustin

I would have also included Franklin if my mind were still working.


75 posted on 02/27/2025 10:15:00 AM PST by GingisK
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To: LastDayz

That is a wonderful skill. I did the formal machinist training (as part of a BSME) but I dont really have the passion.


76 posted on 02/27/2025 10:39:41 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: sasquatch

Got a lathe in my basement.

++++++++++

Not many people can say that. I got one too. It is a 13” South Bend from around 1960.


77 posted on 02/27/2025 11:23:20 AM PST by mund1011 (We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: buwaya

The 1st colony to tear itself away from the Sun Never Sets Empire! Believe me, France, Spain and Russia were very interested.


78 posted on 02/27/2025 12:27:05 PM PST by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: mund1011

I had a wonderful 9 X 36 Southbend Heavy. Lost it in the divorce.


79 posted on 02/27/2025 3:51:49 PM PST by GingisK
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To: buwaya; wildcard_redneck; metmom

“ALL human progress and change, and history, comes from advances in technology. Religion, philosophy, warfare, all matter little or nothing, or are rather reactions to technological change.”

In all of my years on FR, this assertion has to be among the stupidest and most ignorant of any I’ve seen posted.

Making tools does not make you a god. The lathe is not the most important and does not even make the top ten of most lists. Many much more fundamental discoveries and inventions were required precursors as well.

I’m a big fan of technology, but only a fool would believe it is the single most important determinant of progress.


80 posted on 02/27/2025 4:46:21 PM PST by unlearner (Still not tired of winning.)
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