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Update on Delta 4819 - Who were the pilots?
Taking Off ^ | February 20, 2025 | Taking Off

Posted on 02/24/2025 11:42:07 PM PST by xxqqzz

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To: BobL

“DEI is a culture, a sick culture, and it is EVERYWHERE.”

Agreed. Was at a lefty function a while back, a very nice one, actually, with everyone behaving themselves, and on the subject of the downsides of DEI (poor performance in critical positions, for example), the consensus was that we all just needed to be a little more patient with those advanced beyond their actual merit. The Hive Mind.


21 posted on 02/25/2025 5:48:54 AM PST by drwoof
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To: Ex-Con777

“...Something else happened....”

Viewing the video it appears to me the descent was too fast, a hot landing, landing gear couldn’t hold, wing tip dug in ground and crosswind flipped the other wing. Pilot error!!


22 posted on 02/25/2025 6:18:42 AM PST by elpadre
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To: Openurmind

Yes. Descent rate is a critical factor in such a scenario.

I give pause to labeling this anything but pilot error.

However, like the other crash, I await the actual report and more info.


23 posted on 02/25/2025 6:29:52 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: xxqqzz

I do not read transcripts that have timing markers for the video.

So disrespectful of READERS.

I always edit out ADVERTISEMENTS out of my posts, for example.


24 posted on 02/25/2025 6:40:58 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (No American money or lives for Europe’s censorious, socialist, anti-democratic islamophiles!!!)
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To: logi_cal869

“I give pause to labeling this anything but pilot error.”

I would too. But I have also worked for huge corporations doing maintenance. And nine times out of ten what they call “operator error” was actually cause and effect from “corporate policy” that causes maintenance neglect.

Nine times out of ten it was because corporate refused to buy brake shoes or address safety issues and the operator had no choice but to drive it or get fired. But accidents are always labelled as operator error.

So I know corporate neglect is also a real thing and the most common cause of these things.


25 posted on 02/25/2025 6:50:29 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

The a/c remained in a slight starboard roll attitude throughout most of the final 100ft of descent...at excessive descent rate. That’s on video.

I read you, but my “but” outlines that the evidence thus far points to inexperienced pilot landing in horrible conditions...badly (obviously).

All good for discussion. Awaiting the report...


26 posted on 02/25/2025 7:18:56 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Liz

Another observer - a former fighter pilot - said it looked like the pilot “drove the plane into the runway” - coming in way too fast and at the wrong angle. He said a commercial jet cannot handle such conditions - why the plane flipped.

It’s a miracle no one was killed.

And yes, I’m sure the $30,000 offer came with an NDA - although I understand not all of them took this, holding out for more.


27 posted on 02/25/2025 8:37:12 AM PST by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: elpadre
Viewing the video it appears to me the descent was too fast, a hot landing, landing gear couldn’t hold, wing tip dug in ground and crosswind flipped the other wing. Pilot error!!

Exactly. No flare. She just flew it into the ground.

28 posted on 02/25/2025 9:14:52 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Bon of Babble
And yes, I’m sure the $30,000 offer came with an NDA - although I understand not all of them took this, holding out for more.

I read in another post that the $30,000 was with no strings attached. They still have the right to sue.

29 posted on 02/25/2025 9:16:57 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: xxqqzz
Almost a Part Deux?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaE3vWGDiAE

30 posted on 03/18/2025 11:41:54 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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