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Delta CEO says crew on Toronto plane that crash-landed, flipped was experienced
NY Post ^ | 2/19/25 | Emily Crane

Posted on 02/19/2025 11:23:22 AM PST by DallasBiff

The Delta flight crew on board the jet that crash-landed and flipped over in Toronto was experienced and trained for such ordeals, the airline’s CEO said Wednesday — as he poured cold water on fears about mass Federal Aviation Agency layoffs under President Trump.

Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian praised the actions of the flight crew who quickly evacuated the plane when it crashed at Toronto Pearson International Airport on Monday, insisting they were familiar with wintry conditions there.

“All these pilots train for these conditions,” Bastian told “CBS Mornings,” adding that “there is one level of safety at Delta.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: wildcard_redneck
Yeah, I've seen an "experienced crew" before - one has 25 years in some completely different area and the other has six months experience but hey, "this team has 25+ years of experience".

The one with 25 years barely knows what day it is. The one with six months has no business being in the chair but the company is trying to get them to assume command.

61 posted on 02/19/2025 11:58:18 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: DallasBiff

Because they’re names are Laquesha and Dominikta and Queasha


62 posted on 02/19/2025 11:58:22 AM PST by albie (U)
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To: DallasBiff

Watch the video, that plane landed way too hard which caused the accident. Now was the plane on autopilot and it computer failure or is the pilot team responsible?


63 posted on 02/19/2025 11:58:37 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: V_TWIN

Exactly it all about CYA now


64 posted on 02/19/2025 11:59:14 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: MNJohnnie
"Exactly it all about CYA now"

Maybe it's not CYA but CYV.

65 posted on 02/19/2025 12:00:44 PM PST by Enterprise ( These people have no honor, no belief, no poetry, no art, no humor, no patriotism.)
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To: DallasBiff

“CRINGE Delta Videos Of ALL FEMALE DEI Pilots Goes Viral, Democrats Claim Its TRUMP Fault Despite DEI”
by Tim Poole at Timcast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yQcFbWEL5Y


66 posted on 02/19/2025 12:01:18 PM PST by Tom Tetroxide (Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, in the Son of Man, who has no salvation.")
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To: DallasBiff

They are all female.


67 posted on 02/19/2025 12:02:13 PM PST by madison10
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To: albie

I thought their names were Shecrasha, Shesquasha and Sherolla.


68 posted on 02/19/2025 12:02:53 PM PST by Enterprise ( These people have no honor, no belief, no poetry, no art, no humor, no patriotism.)
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To: DallasBiff
Delta CEO says crew on Toronto plane that crash-landed, flipped was experienced

Well if they weren't...they are now.

69 posted on 02/19/2025 12:06:15 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: DallasBiff
Yeah, they were experienced.



70 posted on 02/19/2025 12:06:46 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Dennis M.
Not sure you can have wind shear in those conditions. Besides, if it were wind shear they would have come in short. It came in fast and appeared to be above glide slope. I don’t see how it cannot be a huge pilot error but it is something I would not expect of a pilot of any reasonable skill level. We will have to wait and see the accident report.

They “landed” very short. They hit right on the numbers, which is about 1,000 feet short of the touchdown zone. Also, if you watch the latest video, the one taken by the pilot who was holding short of the runway, the aircraft initially looks like it’s in a pretty normal pitch attitude for a jet on approach, slightly nose-high, but then you can see the pitch flatten out, followed by the aircraft just pancaking flat onto the runway with no flare. My guess would be that they DID experience a sudden loss of airspeed due to wind shear, which caused the pilot to push the nose down to compensate for the loss. The only question is did they stall or nearly stall right before they could flare, or did they screw up during everything that was happening so quickly and try to flare too late?

And wind shear definitely can occur during those types of conditions. All it takes is a sudden change in the direction of the wind, or a sudden drop in its velocity, to cause enough of a reduction in the relative wind flowing over the wings to cause a stall or incipient stall. That’s why all fixed-wing aircraft add one-half the wind speed, up to a specified limit, when landing in high and especially gusty winds. It’s done to compensate for the effect of a possible sudden lull in the wind

That sudden lowering of the nose followed by an obvious sudden increase in the descent rate looks to me like the smoking gun for wind shear. But, that doesn’t mean that there aren’t other factors that contributed as well. We can only know what those are (and if wind shear actually was involved) once the NTSB has gone over all of the data and interviewed the crew.

71 posted on 02/19/2025 12:07:09 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: DallasBiff

Rumors I’m hearing. Young new hire female copilot on her line check. Her landing. Captain was her check airman. Furthermore, it’s said she had difficulty in her training. Took 11 months to get her through initial sim school. More than double normal. I have her name and background. Get ready for a major dei scandal. Ugh.


72 posted on 02/19/2025 12:07:20 PM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!)
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To: chopperk
He did not flare at all...

assuming it's a "he".

73 posted on 02/19/2025 12:07:46 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

She.


74 posted on 02/19/2025 12:09:44 PM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!)
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To: DallasBiff

Cow tipping is similar to plane flipping I guess.


75 posted on 02/19/2025 12:10:34 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Dalberg-Acton

I’m not a pilot but even I know you have to flare before you set down.


76 posted on 02/19/2025 12:12:25 PM PST by Zathras
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To: PilotDave

That’s what one of the tweets mentioned, that I posted a link to upthread, as well.

Is this Kendal?


77 posted on 02/19/2025 12:12:58 PM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: oldtech
"I am pleased that they were apparently experienced enough that they got everybody out alive."

They are extremely fortunate that no one was killed. I shouldn't have been so sarcastic about the way they landed. They're lucky they landed at all, even if it was upside down. The weather had to play a prominent role in what happened.

I'm no flyer. Never liked it, and haven't flown since 2007. I'm grateful I will never have to take a plane anywhere, ever again in my life. I don't know how pilots, even good ones can fly when the weather is bad. I watched an Alaskan Air series years ago, and when the winds were high, those poor pilots in the prop planes had to approach the runway sideways in order to counter the oncoming wind. It looked terrifying.

At the moment, I can't even get my car out of my handicapped parking spot in front of my building due to a snow and ice storm here in central NY. When they plowed the parking lot, they plowed me in on three sides. AAA is so busy, they can't even give you an ETA other than over 24 hours for them to get here, and its been just about 24 hours now.

78 posted on 02/19/2025 12:14:59 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: srmanuel

I read someone compared it to a carrier landing. Obviously a civilian jet isn’t hooking the cable so no reason to fly in so fast and hard. It’s wind or bad pilot. Butt Boi Pete and Democrats say it is Trump’s fault of course.


79 posted on 02/19/2025 12:15:09 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Jane Long

Yup.


80 posted on 02/19/2025 12:16:43 PM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!)
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