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Lila Rose debates law professor Mary Anne Franks, who likens preborn babies to rapists
Live Action News ^ | February 13, 2025 | Jacob Airey

Posted on 02/17/2025 8:30:51 AM PST by Morgana

On January 22, 2025, Live Action founder and president Lila Rose took part in a Georgetown University abortion debate with author and attorney Dr. Mary Anne Franks. The two discussed whether induced abortion — the direct and intentional killing of a preborn child — should be legal. Moderators for the debate were Elizabeth Oliver, President of Georgetown Right to Life (Class of 2026) and Max Wolff-Merovick (Class of 2028).

In her opening statement, Rose said, “The question we are addressing tonight is this: ‘Should abortion be legal?’ Or, to put it more simply, ‘Should murder be legal?’”

“The word ‘abortion’ is a euphemism,” she continued, “And it is surrounded by euphemisms like ‘choice’ or ‘health care.’ But let us speak plainly and define our terms. Abortion is the intentional killing of an innocent human life prior to birth.”

Rose described some of the horrific procedures, noting that they include “poisoning, dismemberment, and burning.”

“These are not medical procedures,” Rose insisted. (See the most common methods of abortion in the video below.)

Rose then laid out the case for the humanity of preborn children and cited staggering statistics on how many preborn humans are killed in the womb via induced abortion. Citing the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution, Rose explained how preborn children are protected citizens who should have the same basic human rights as someone who has already been born.

During her opening, Dr. Franks claimed she had once been pro-life but said she changed her mind after her career in law. She denied the humanity of children in the womb, comparing a woman who commits an abortion to a person merely acting in some form of self-defense.

“Let me explain what I mean,” she said. “Laws of self-defense, laws of property, say that the right that we all have, each of us, all of us as individuals, have to protect ourselves against the uses of our bodies or our homes even in some cases, our rights to say no to some of the uses. The idea that we need to consent to some of those uses,” she opined, “that is something that is reinforced by so many aspects of our law.”

She continued to insist that carrying a preborn baby is somehow analogous to someone threatening deadly force upon a woman.

During her rebuttal, Rose pushed back against that argument, saying, “First of all, [Dr. Franks] talked about the law of self-defense as a form of justification for abortion. And I think she described, you know, that if someone is trying to hurt you intentionally, you have the right to fight back and defend yourself,” Rose emphasized. “And the reality is, the child in the womb is not trying to hurt anyone intentionally. The child in the womb is totally dependent on their parents — and ultimately, the child has a right to live as well.”

As the debate continued, Dr. Franks insisted that the preborn child has no rights, and even compared a preborn child to a rapist forcing himself on a woman.

“Why can’t [rapists] just say, ‘I’m borrowing your vagina for however long… nine months,” she suggested. “If that’s how we’re going to do the moral calculus, then why can’t we just say we’re going to borrow your vagina for a while?” She referred to a child’s prenatal development as “womb rental.”

The dehumanizing language Dr. Franks used to describe preborn children is not a new narrative from the pro-abortion side. Live Action News previously reported on a pro-abortion Wisconsin judge who referred to preborn children as “a small group of prenatal cells” in a ruling. In addition, the abortion industry commonly uses terms like “pregnancy tissue” and “products of conception” to describe a preborn child.

Whether you use terms like “group of cells,” or something erroneous like “rapist,” the preborn child is entirely human and has every right to life — and deserves to not be unjustly killed.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortiondebate; euphemism; fakechristian; fakechristiangrifter; fakechristians; intercession; jacobairey; lilagracerose; lilarose; maryannefranks; prolife; repentance; repentlilarose; trump; trumpisyourdaddy; trumpisyourdaddylila

1 posted on 02/17/2025 8:30:51 AM PST by Morgana
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Watch the entire debate here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2Eu8dHpqsI


2 posted on 02/17/2025 8:31:45 AM PST by Morgana ( “Abortion is the ultimate exploitation of women.” — Alice Paul )
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To: Morgana

Most Democrat fathers first see their child on a sonogram scene at an abortion clinic clinic.


3 posted on 02/17/2025 8:41:02 AM PST by cnsmom
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To: Morgana

The simplest gestures make huge impacts.
- Swap your car tag for a Pro-life one. You never know if a lady is heading to the abortion mill and get behind you in traffic after pleading with God for a sign and then changes her mind.
- When someone refers to a pregnant lady as a “mother-to-be” politely correct them that she is in fact a mother. Isn’t that a baby in her womb?
- Make a pro-life statement with clothing or hats. Rather than putting my name on my Hard hat at work, I put “Choose Life” instead. I say that my name isn’t relevant, my mission is... Granted some call me “Choose” until I tell them my name.
Such and so forth...


4 posted on 02/17/2025 8:44:39 AM PST by SavannahWonderer (First do no harm)
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To: SavannahWonderer

💯.


5 posted on 02/17/2025 8:56:57 AM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Morgana

TRUTH


6 posted on 02/17/2025 8:58:52 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Morgana
The dehumanizing language Dr. Franks used to describe preborn children is not a new narrative from the pro-abortion side.

Definitely not a new narrative. And it predates the modern push for abortion. "It's not a person, it's a clump of cells" is just like the old "It's not a person, it's property." It may be hard to believe, but before the Civil War, the Dims actually fought for private property rights.

7 posted on 02/17/2025 9:03:51 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Morgana

Lila said it in three words, “abortion is murder.” The esteemed doctor/esquire took several paragraphs to lay a foundation for her twisted analysis. Pretzel time.

The good doctor said she was formerly pro-life, but on being an attorney, and presumably discovering the financial riches to be had by supporting murder, changed. It’s true: 99% of lawyers give the 1% a bad name.


8 posted on 02/17/2025 9:06:22 AM PST by DPMD
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To: Morgana

Yep, just a clump of cells - with two arms, two legs two eyes two ears a head a brain a beating heart different DNA and blood type, feelings... IOW, what we call a human being.

What exactly is the difference between a one hour old baby that makes him a protected human and what he was a few hours, or a week before while in the mother’s womb, that made him a disposable human, besides the physical location?


9 posted on 02/17/2025 9:15:38 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they. control you. )
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To: Morgana

It’s amazing how many mentally ill women there are out in public. Enough to question the 19th Amendment and realize why all previous civilizations with few exceptions excluded women from the body politic.


10 posted on 02/17/2025 9:21:07 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Morgana

Franks is just a clump of cells too.


11 posted on 02/17/2025 9:32:22 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Tell It Right
It may be hard to believe, but before the Civil War, the Dims actually fought for private property rights.

Only if that “property” happened to be a slave. Beyond that, they didn’t give a damn. The Democrats have always been evil.

12 posted on 02/17/2025 9:32:55 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Morgana

Does the perfesser feel any guilt about having raped her mother, or was her gestation period somehow different? It probably takes a lawyer to come up with something this deviously outrageous.


13 posted on 02/17/2025 10:02:40 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (God save the United States!)
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To: Morgana
The real question is not "When does life begin?".

The question is "When does murder begin?".

14 posted on 02/17/2025 10:23:16 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Grew up in 3-D/B4TV)
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To: Morgana; lightman

Protect human Life—from conception to natural death!


15 posted on 02/17/2025 11:20:33 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Morgana

What an immoral, vile creature that Prof. is.
You will hear this talking point coming out of the left now. Vile ghouls that they are.


16 posted on 02/17/2025 11:48:46 AM PST by vpintheak (Screw the ChiComms! America first!)
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To: Morgana

Is Lila Rose still trying to boss Trump around like she personally won the election by telling people not to vote for him?

She can sit and spin.


17 posted on 02/17/2025 10:12:16 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: Morgana

‘Dr’ Mary Franks is exceedingly stupid. Babies grow in the uterus, not the vagina.


18 posted on 02/17/2025 11:34:22 PM PST by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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