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1 posted on 02/14/2025 4:27:56 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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putin-judo-03
2 posted on 02/14/2025 4:29:25 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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Trump and Vance are doing a “good cop, bad cop” on Putin and Zelenskyy. Let’s see how it goes.


3 posted on 02/14/2025 4:29:45 AM PST by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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“Military action” implies at some level going to war directly with Russia. Fortunately, I think they’ve already got better communications and plans with Russia.


6 posted on 02/14/2025 4:45:36 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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“U.S. troops to Ukraine was “on the table” if Russia failed to negotiate in good faith”

Trump’s approval rating would match Biden’s if that happened.


8 posted on 02/14/2025 4:57:30 AM PST by McGruff (Biden will go down in history as the worst president ever.)
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Interesting that your "cited" first paragraph isn't what the current FOX web page shows.

First sentence:

FOX says "Vice President JD Vance on Thursday said President Donald Trump wanted productive negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, but noted that the U.S. had a 'range of options; if President Vladimir Putin didn't come to the negotiating table on a deal that would guarantee peace for Ukraine."

Yours says: "Vice President JD Vance on Thursday reportedly warned that the U.S. wouldn't rule out tough sanctions or even potential military action against Russia if President Vladimir Putin didn't come to the negotiating table on a deal that would guarantee peace for Ukraine."

Transcription problems?

Second sentence:

FOX says: "In speaking with The Wall Street Journal, which was the first to report on Vance's comments, the vice president said President Trump was willing to employ a broad range of options to negotiate a peace deal. "

Yours says: "In speaking with The Wall Street Journal, which was the first to report on Vance's comments, the vice president said sending U.S. troops to Ukraine was "on the table" if Russia failed to negotiate in good faith."

Transcription problems? Seems proven. FOX doesn't says what you say it says.

Maybe Freepers reading the ACTUAL news article is wise....

9 posted on 02/14/2025 4:59:28 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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The media are such liars. Vance never said “troops were on the table”. He said military options are on the table, which includes a lot of things any of which many not include troops.


13 posted on 02/14/2025 5:09:53 AM PST by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th and 47th President of the United States of America!)
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MucusMaximus, why is the title completely contrived?

It does not match the article!? Admins should correct it.
14 posted on 02/14/2025 5:10:16 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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There are only 2 ways that UKR can be guaranteed peace from Russian aggression: by Russian military defeat or by Russia disarming its military. The first is more likely than the later. The later would also require someone like B. Yeltsin to take over from Putin.

As long as Putin is in power, Russia will continue to seek to expand it’s borders, in an effort to reclaim the old USSR borders - no matter the cost, while using any halt in fighting to continue to fight elsewhere in Europe and building out it’s military for a wider war.

Russia and peace are not two words that go together. 47 needs to understand this and stop repeating Putin talking points and making verbal concessions, even before any formal negotiations begin.

To that end Vance seems to get it, and Hegseth had to walk back his verbal concessions to Russia. So there might be a glimmer of hope for UKR.

Any military action by NATO would quickly roll up Russian lines in most of UKR, since they have almost no air defenses remaining nor early warning radars. Their AF is so far behind the front as to make it a non-starter.


19 posted on 02/14/2025 5:21:33 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Only a COMPLETE MORON would believe that lol

He’s the VP for a reason.

Trump doesn’t even want to give them weapons..no less men.

#### Ukrainne.

They lost the landd...make the deal...or lose the rest of the land..or depend on W Europe LOL!!


23 posted on 02/14/2025 6:07:17 AM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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No US soldiers to the Ukraine! That’s Russia’s backyard not ours.


26 posted on 02/14/2025 6:47:15 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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51 posted on 02/14/2025 4:27:43 PM PST by Allegra (It’s MAGA time! )
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