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Ukraine regaining pre-2014 borders is 'unrealistic objective,' Hegseth says in first NATO visit
Fox News ^ | 2/12/2025 | Greg Norman , Lucas Y. Tomlinson

Posted on 02/12/2025 7:08:16 AM PST by marcusmaximus

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Hegseth continued. "We want a sovereign and prosperous Ukraine. But we must start by recognizing that returning to Ukraine’s pre-2014 borders is an unrealistic objective. Chasing this illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering."

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"A durable peace for Ukraine must include robust security guarantees to ensure that the war will not begin again," Hegseth said Wednesday. "The United States does not believe that NATO membership for Ukraine is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement. Instead, any security guarantee must be backed by capable European and non-European troops."

"If these troops are deployed as peacekeepers to Ukraine at any point, they should be deployed as part of a non-NATO mission and not covered under Article 5. There also must be robust international oversight of the line of contact," he continued. "To be clear, as part of any security guarantee, there will not be U.S. troops deployed to Ukraine."

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Hegseth also said he is in Brussels today to "directly and unambiguously express that stark strategic realities prevent the United States from being primarily focused on the security of Europe."

"The United States faces consequential threats to our homeland. We must -- and we are -- focusing on securing our own borders," he said. "We also face a peer competitor in China with the capability and intent to threaten our homeland and core national interests in the Indo-Pacific."

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KEYWORDS: china; nato; russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 02/12/2025 7:08:16 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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"We also face a peer competitor in China with the capability and intent to threaten our homeland and core national interests in the Indo-Pacific."

Simple solution

Borrow the Israeli "Iron Dome" system for the USA

And use Musk "Starlink" system to control it.

2 posted on 02/12/2025 7:17:47 AM PST by spokeshave (Proud Boys, Angry Dads. Grumpy Grandads & Curmudgeons)
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To: marcusmaximus

Clear, concise and true. Three things I’ve never heard from the government before.


3 posted on 02/12/2025 7:20:13 AM PST by edwinland
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To: edwinland

The Trump Doctrine.


4 posted on 02/12/2025 7:21:57 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Finally, someone with common sense? Pete Hegseth has his work cut out, that’s for sure. Going to take the rest of our “allies” to step up to the plate nd pay their fair share. We must take care of our own borders and budgets first.


5 posted on 02/12/2025 7:22:08 AM PST by Omnivore-Dan (Shut)
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To: marcusmaximus

What was the ultimate goal of the Ukraine War provoked by the United States during the Obama Administration with the coup in Kiev back in 2014?

Peter Hitchens smelled this rat from the beginning in his writings. Still notes the UK is a “paper tiger” as a military power as it rages against Russia.

Angela Merkel, who the US government campaigned covertly against and spied on, warned that driving Russia towards China was a bad idea.

But that is exactly what ended up happening.

So I guess we end up with UK European forces ‘containing’ Russia while the USA focuses on the “Indo-Pacific” and China.

Defense contractors getting a good cut out of this? Lindsey Graham getting richer?


6 posted on 02/12/2025 7:22:35 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: spokeshave

Borrow?

We blocked 90 perent of the missiles that were thrown at them :)

And you REALLY THINK we didn’t design and build most of Iron Dome?

Come on :)

I am glad it worked so well during the past year’s war against hamas

But we don’t have to BORROW anything.

And if we did, we’ve given enough money to have paid for it outright through the decades :)


7 posted on 02/12/2025 7:22:44 AM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Said here by patriots since 2022


8 posted on 02/12/2025 7:23:33 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ LIFE )
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To: marcusmaximus

Zelensky could reject this and fight to the last Ukie Male.


9 posted on 02/12/2025 7:25:03 AM PST by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: tennmountainman

Zelensky has no choice but to go along with President Trump’s plan.


10 posted on 02/12/2025 7:26:05 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

The question is will Zeepers go along with Trumps plan?
Many of us have been telling Zeepers this would be the outcome.
But some Zeepers reminded us “Kiev in 3 Days” nonsense repeatedly.
We will be proven right.
Zeepers…not so much.


11 posted on 02/12/2025 7:30:59 AM PST by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: marcusmaximus

Told you so three years ago.


12 posted on 02/12/2025 7:32:31 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: marcusmaximus

I don’t give a rat’s behind about Ukraine. Never have; never will.

I am looking forward to all the corruption that will be exposed, though. Certain Congress critters must be sweating bullets.

And blackrock.


13 posted on 02/12/2025 7:33:45 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (MAGA!!!!)
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To: spokeshave

What this iron dome is supposed to solve?


14 posted on 02/12/2025 7:35:22 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: dp0622

“We blocked 90 perent of the missiles that were thrown at them :)”

Is it a joke?


15 posted on 02/12/2025 7:37:05 AM PST by NorseViking
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More:

Hegseth also told Nato’s European members that they would need to provide the lion’s share of future aid for Kyiv, warning that Washington “will no longer tolerate an imbalanced relationship” with its allies.

“Safeguarding European security must be an imperative for European members of Nato,” Hegseth told a meeting of Ukraine’s backers in Brussels. “Europe must provide the overwhelming share of future lethal and non-lethal aid to Ukraine.”

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0pz3er37jo.amp


16 posted on 02/12/2025 7:37:30 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: tennmountainman
The question is will Zeepers go along with Trumps plan? Many of us have been telling Zeepers this would be the outcome. But some Zeepers reminded us “Kiev in 3 Days” nonsense repeatedly. We will be proven right. Zeepers…not so much.

That deserves an echo.

17 posted on 02/12/2025 7:42:58 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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One wonders if a Russia friendly government were installed in Ukraine, regardless of how, if this means Europe will still send military and rebuilding aid to Ukraine.

You see, it’s not about Ukraine. It’s about maybe 10 guys running the gov’t.


18 posted on 02/12/2025 7:43:08 AM PST by Owen
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
>> "Said here by patriots since 2022" <<

Yep, exactly !!! 👍👍


19 posted on 02/12/2025 7:44:35 AM PST by ANKE69 (✌️🇺🇲 Let's MAGA)
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To: marcusmaximus

yes!


20 posted on 02/12/2025 7:47:27 AM PST by edwinland
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