Posted on 02/10/2025 7:24:00 AM PST by marcusmaximus
Russia's point man for relations with the United States said on Monday that all of President Vladimir Putin's conditions must be met in full before the war in Ukraine can end, suggesting Moscow is playing hardball with U.S. President Donald Trump.
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Moscow swiftly underscored that its maximalist demands - as set out by Putin in June last year - remained the opening bid at the outset of the negotiations.
The "political solution as we envisage it cannot be achieved otherwise than through the full implementation of what was pronounced by President Putin when he spoke to the Russian Foreign Ministry in June," Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told a Moscow news briefing in English.
"This is where we are and the sooner U.S., Britain and others understand it, the better it would be and the closer this desired political solution will be for everyone," said Ryabkov.
In Putin's June 14 speech to the foreign ministry, he set out his terms: Ukraine must drop its NATO ambitions and withdraw its troops from the entirety of the territory of four Ukrainian regions claimed and mostly controlled by Russia.
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Once funding stops then Putin could do what he wants.
Us folks who are anti Ukraine war, anti Putin, anti globalist and anti Zelensky are NOT in a strong bargaining position here.
Fight to the last Ukie Male.
DJT has urged Europe to step up.
The US wants out.
That leaves Ukraine as dead meat hanging.
Russia hold all the cards.
Putin holds none of the cards and will cave to Trump quickly. Resulting in the withdraw of Russian troops from Ukrainian territory
“Because Russia thought they could take Ukraine in a month.”
Without $200 billion + in NATO/US military aid, they would have succeeded.
And they now know that the US wants out, and once we’re out, everybody’s out.
Putin did say that he could take Kiev in two weeks if he wanted to do so.
Guess not.
Putin Boasts of Being Able to Take Kiev in 2 Weeks:
https://time.com/3259699/putin-boast-kiev-2-weeks/
You have not been listening to Trump. He has said that if Russia does not negotiate he will ramp up the aid to Ukraine.
Poor Ukraine can’t surrender, nor should they, but Putin can stop his Ukrainian conquest misadventure whenever he chooses to, just as he could easily restart his invasion again, too, if he stops too soon.
The life and death psychological truth is, he hasn’t lost enough people and equipment yet to lose his desire for war and conquest. Putin wants what Ukraine has more than he cares about what it costs to take it from them.
For that reason, this war can’t truly end until Putin’s ego’s desires and his troops have fully bled out while dying in Ukraine.
Otherwise, just like with Germany after WWI, he or someone like him be back with this same deja vu all over again.
Let the war continue until both sides want peace more than they want war.
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Peace means:
One side risks its economic future & its work force;
The other side risks extermination.
Guess which side is which.
Oh, I know what Trump said.
Read my post again. I used the words "if" and "bluffing".
Then I pointed out that Trump will split his support if he continues to fund the Ukraine war.
He will also split his support if he cuts and runs.
1. Let Crimea become an independent nation. They will ally with Russia. They already do so, so what?
2. a 50 demilitarized zone on the Uke/Russian border.
3. Ensure full ingress/regress for Uke access to the Black Sea ports
4. No NATO
5. No nukes
DONE.
Yup.
Ooooh, that's a hard question. Non-NATO nation or non-NATO nation?
Guess what? What happens is what will happen, and PIF and I will both watch the whole mess work itself out. Time will tell. We won't.
You've been a busy PIF....
Ooooh, that's a hard question. Non-NATO nation or non-NATO nation?
Guess what? What happens is what will happen, and PIF and I will both watch the whole mess work itself out. Time will tell. We won't.
You've been a busy PIF....
Half-correct.... The Putin quote is from 2014. The few-years-old quote is from that wonderful, golden era of Generalissimo Milley....
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