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To: gnarledmaw

But that’s not true. MANY “versions” of the flag are accepted now. They’re all over political ads, “patriotic” product ads and everything else.

There is no real “as written” for the anthem. That’s the point you’re ignoring. Especially because “as written” it has a higher range than 90% of singers. Almost nobody can truly sing it “as written”. The first thing anybody has to do is figure out what they’re going to do with that range. So it’s modified from the jump.

There’s nothing disrespectful about playing the song to the best of one’s ability. And that might deviate very far from the fictional “as written” idea. But your best effort is ALWAYS respectful.

Rosanne wasn’t doing anything to the best of her ability. That’s what made it disrespectful.

Feliciano did it to the best of his ability. With his accent it was going to come out Latin tinged. So he played into the spin. It’s not creating division, it’s a reminder that America is a big place with lots of different people and subcultures. We’re a nation with 4 different major concepts of barbecue, 4 different names for basically the same cold cut sandwich, 3 words for fizzy drinks. We’re not a monoculture, never have been. So the demand that the national anthem be monolithic is silly, and disrespectful to the country. The anthem can flex, just everything else.


83 posted on 02/10/2025 1:08:47 PM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

There is exactly one flag. Fabricating nonsense does change that.

Im ignoring you because we both know that youre being contradictory just to try to “win”. There is only one anthem and it has exactly one acceptable written form. The failure of your preferred performer to be able to do it doesnt mean it gets to be modified, maybe you should be listening to people that actually have the talent they claimed to have.

You know what is disrespectful? Attempting to claim to be the champion of the argument I was making just because you saw realized how asinine and indefensible your position was. A child playing a broken ukulele to the best of their ability is is respectful, hiring some incompetent musician to bastardize the piece just because you think they are super cool is never respectful not on your part for hiring them and knowing that they were going to do that and not respectful on the part of the musician to accept the role knowing they cant do it. Maybe your 600lb girlfriend with weak ankles is a very nice person but she will never be an olympic figure skater no matter how much you pay her or how much you think of her. You are being entirely disingenuous to try to equate your elevation of disrespectful professionals to my championing the efforts of either true professionals or the common mans effort.

That voice of Rosannes is her real voice. If you actually watched the clip you should be able to hear her speaking voice before she starts. That is not a voice she effects for the Rosanne character, that is her real. She has no place attempting to professionally sing and she didnt ever pretend to be able, she had to ask when she was supposed to start because she didnt even know. Without the antics she resorted to in an effort to recover the will of the crowd, her effort absolutely would have been preferable to someone intentionally screwing it up.

Which brings us back to Jose intentionally bastardizing the song. This is not about a little accent, this is about entirely playing a different song with the same lyrics and that is not the national anthem, its not a little spin, its a parody with enough of the original to make it recognizable. Whether he thought he was above the message of the message or was paid to politicize the message is of no relevance to this discussion as either way it was disrespectful.

I think your sudden adoption of a vision for a balkanized future nation while what Im taking as you inferring that Im actually just a racist is desperate enough that I think it indicates that Ive made my point sufficiently.

Thank you for your time.


85 posted on 02/11/2025 9:24:52 AM PST by gnarledmaw (If you dont like my sense of humor, please let me know so I can laugh at you too.)
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To: discostu

Oh, ffs, I shouldnt have left the edit for this morning. Ill be right back....


86 posted on 02/11/2025 9:30:36 AM PST by gnarledmaw (If you dont like my sense of humor, please let me know so I can laugh at you too.)
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To: discostu

There is exactly one flag. Fabricating nonsense does change that.

Im ignoring you because we both know that youre being contradictory just to try to “win”. There is only one anthem and it has exactly one acceptable written form. The failure of your preferred performer to be able to do it doesnt mean it gets to be modified, maybe you should be listening to people that actually have the talent they claimed to have.

You know what is disrespectful? Attempting to claim to be the champion of the argument I was making just because you saw realized how asinine and indefensible your position was. A child playing a broken ukulele to the best of their ability is respectful, hiring some incompetent musician to bastardize the piece just because you think they are super cool is never respectful not on your part for hiring them and knowing that they were going to do that and not respectful on the part of the musician to accept the role knowing they cant do it. Maybe your 600lb girlfriend with weak ankles is a very nice person but she will never be an olympic figure skater no matter how much you pay her or how much you think of her. You are being entirely disingenuous to try to equate your elevation of disrespectful professionals to my championing the efforts of either true professionals or the common mans effort.

That voice of Rosannes is her real voice. If you actually watched the clip you should be able to hear her speaking voice before she starts. That is not a voice she effects for the Rosanne character, that is her real voice. She has no place attempting to professionally sing and she didnt ever pretend to be able to, she had to ask when she was supposed to start because she didnt even know. Without the antics she resorted to in an effort to recover the will of the crowd, her effort absolutely would have been preferable to someone intentionally screwing it up.

Which brings us back to Jose intentionally bastardizing the song. This is not about a little accent, this is about entirely playing a different song with the same lyrics and that is not the national anthem, its not a little spin, its a parody with enough of the original to make it recognizable. Whether he thought he was above the message or was paid to politicize the message is of no relevance to this discussion as either way it was disrespectful.

I think your sudden adoption of a vision for a balkanized future nation while what Im taking as you inferring that Im actually just a racist is desperate enough that I think it indicates that Ive made my point sufficiently.

Thank you for your time.


87 posted on 02/11/2025 9:34:51 AM PST by gnarledmaw (If you dont like my sense of humor, please let me know so I can laugh at you too.)
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