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Ukraine's politics warms up as U.S. focuses on war's endgame
Reuters Japan Times ^ | 2/4/2025 | TOM BALMFORTH AND YULIIA DYSA

Posted on 02/04/2025 3:26:19 AM PST by marcusmaximus

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Serhiy Dubovik, deputy head of Ukraine's Central Election Commission, said it would take at least four to six months to prepare so that campaigning could start ahead of an election, given the displacement of voters and widespread destruction.

Millions of Ukrainians still live abroad, millions more are internally displaced by the war, a fifth of Ukraine is occupied and front-line areas have been devastated.

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Zelenskyy's public trust rating is above 50%, according to opinion polls, although it has dropped since Russia's Feb. 24, 2022 invasion, when it rose to over 90% as Ukrainians rallied around the flag.

The elephant in the room for some observers is Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, who led the armed forces for two years after that invasion before being replaced and named ambassador to London.

Some lawmakers have asked whether Zaluzhnyi could be co-opted by an established political force and run for president.

Ukraine's London embassy did not respond to a written request for comment.

Zaluzhnyi has publicly voiced no political ambition but polls suggest he is popular. Zaluzhnyi's image is all over bookstores in Kyiv, where thousands of copies of his new book "My War" have been sold.

(Excerpt) Read more at japantimes.co.jp ...


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1 posted on 02/04/2025 3:26:19 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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Tell your Zelensky it's time to step down and go back to his old line of work (something you'll enjoy anyway).

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2 posted on 02/04/2025 3:32:20 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: marcusmaximus

Reuters, a news source I will never read discusses a CIA sponsored war that never should have been fought.


3 posted on 02/04/2025 3:33:23 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Putin’s botched invasion ends on Easter.


4 posted on 02/04/2025 3:35:13 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: JonPreston

Putin’s botched invasion ends on Easter.


5 posted on 02/04/2025 3:35:47 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Why would Ukraine want to warm up to the wars endgame...their winning and beating Russia? I’m guessing another 8-10 years they’ll be marching through Moscow.


6 posted on 02/04/2025 3:37:21 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: marcusmaximus
Putin’s botched invasion ends on Easter.

You have been wrong about Ukraine for the last three years so why on earth would we take your future opinions seriously?

7 posted on 02/04/2025 3:41:55 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: maddog55

President Trump is keeping his promise to end the war.


8 posted on 02/04/2025 3:41:57 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: JonPreston

What Munich Security Conference doink?


9 posted on 02/04/2025 3:44:31 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Just don’t see that happening, and primary reason is Putin.

A freeze at this point means much of the “annexed” parts of Russia will remain in Ukraine. Not a good look for dear leader.

No one anticipated the rapid collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, I see some rhyming in the future


10 posted on 02/04/2025 3:45:41 AM PST by blitz128
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11 posted on 02/04/2025 3:46:30 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: blitz128

Putin has no choice. President Trump is back.


12 posted on 02/04/2025 3:47:58 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: blitz128
A freeze at this point means much of the “annexed” parts of Russia will remain in Ukraine.

If you think for a second that Putin is going to return the hard fought for liberated East to the NATO puppet Zelensky, you're more clueless than I thought

13 posted on 02/04/2025 3:50:11 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: maddog55
Failure briefed as success.

And even the facts are bent or suppressed to show this narrative.

Reality has the Russian economy growing and Ukraine with an economy that despite some growth this year that has net imploded by 1/3 since wars begin. Reality has the Russians gaining land in a slow creep (intended to keep the pressure on) and sitting in Ukraine, having taken the heart of Ukraine's steel industry and a port city, a major industrial area, and about 20% of Ukraine's landmass. Roughly 8 million Ukrainian's have fled as refugees, and with a birthrate among the worst on the planet (1.26), Ukraine has committed demographic suicide (unsustainable even for one generation), and that does not include the dead and crippled. Ukraine has an infrastructure that is heavily damaged, is massively indebted (to us of course), and the cost of this war will have a reverb that will last for a generation at this point (crippled, etc).

***And yet we have these victory speeches.***

This war was lost in 2023 and our politicians avoiding a black eye have simply kicked the proverbial can down the road since then.

This is not a Ukraine winning, it's not even a stalemate. It's Ukraine losing. It's us failing to achieve our stated military (hold onto Ukraine territories we knew Russian would go for - ethnic Russian areas) and political objectives (NATO expansion), entirely. In fact, this failure has expanded to include EU membership which was well in reach for Ukraine before the war. The EU (Germany and France) won't want this economic and political basket case in their union.

Time for another western non-propagandist and fact checked news article about a Ghost of Kiev, battle for Snake Island, a victorious Ukrainian counter offensive, western military hardware that will turn the tide, and of course Times Person of the year, Mr Z., who we installed, ran on a peace platform and is a dictator today.

14 posted on 02/04/2025 4:29:50 AM PST by Red6
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

That’s a JOKE, right??


15 posted on 02/04/2025 4:34:08 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: blitz128

After the Easter ceasefire, Putin’s troops will no longer receive combat pay. Popcorn time.


16 posted on 02/04/2025 4:37:31 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: maddog55

However, all that said, there is a scenario where this war in Ukraine is a 100% success.

Assuming we have an entirely Machiavellian approach, the argument can be made (there is a lot of evidence which supports this theory), that we wanted this war, that we knew we would cause a war.

Our policy makers can’t be so naive to believe that brining Ukraine into NATO won’t cause a major Russian reaction, ESPECIALLY post Georgia 2008, and our first attempt with Ukraine in 2014 (same reason, NATO expansion). The Russians have drawn a big fat red line and when we made our decision in October 2021 we essentially stone walled the Russians and never even discussed any sort of security assurances or force and equipment limitations etc.

Why would we want a war?

Russia is our global competitor in oil and gas and we have both been jockeying over control of nations that produce such. In the last few years, Venezuela, Syria, Iraq and Libya have been in our sight.

That said, imagine this scenario:

Russia is at war with Ukraine and for Russia this is a major problem especially after we armed and trained Ukraine for 7 years prior to the war.

In this scenario, Ukrainian’s do the bleeding (except some proxy spill over in Iraq etc. and our PMCs), and the Euros flip 1/2 the bill, but we benefit from a weakened Russia on the world stage where they have a hard time projecting force.

Forget Ukraine. Forget the Republic of Georgia who we also tried to drag into this (we wanted to open a second front for the Russians). In this scenario Ukraine is a mere means to a much larger end, and if you look at what’s going on in Libya, Syria, Venezuela that does appear to be what is happening.


17 posted on 02/04/2025 6:04:04 AM PST by Red6
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To: JonPreston

Everyone will get puppies, kittens and a pony on Easter!


18 posted on 02/04/2025 7:07:44 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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What Munich Security Conference doink?

What Special Easter Sock doink?


19 posted on 02/04/2025 7:09:10 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: JonPreston

These people take “stupid pills”.


20 posted on 02/04/2025 7:10:05 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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