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Trump says Army chopper was "flying too high, by a lot" as new up-close videos emerge of American Airlines collision (best video that I've seen to date)
notthebee.com ^ | Jan 31, 2025 | Joel Abbott

Posted on 02/01/2025 6:13:37 AM PST by airdalechief

CNN obtained two new videos that show the collision from much closer than previously available clips. Both show that the Army helicopter did not attempt to swerve before colliding with the American Airlines flight out of Wichita.

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KEYWORDS: aviation; blackhawk; kamikaze; kamikazepilot; transgender; video
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(another good video): In the videos both aircraft can clearly be seen flying towards each other, then exploding and falling into the river after the fatal explosion.

https://x.com/aviationbrk/status/1885321930506457450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1885321930506457450%7Ctwgr%5Ee720eb90d3074f056506fb5a69b27964ff1f7ea6%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnotthebee.com%2Farticle%2Ftrump-says-army-chopper-was-flying-too-high-by-a-lot-as-new-up-close-videos-emerge-of-collision

1 posted on 02/01/2025 6:13:37 AM PST by airdalechief
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To: airdalechief

Name of third helicopter pilot please….


2 posted on 02/01/2025 6:15:45 AM PST by 9422WMR
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To: airdalechief

https://x.com/aviationbrk/status/1885321930506457450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1885321930506457450%7Ctwgr%5Ee720eb90d3074f056506fb5a69b27964ff1f7ea6%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnotthebee.com%2Farticle%2Ftrump-says-army-chopper-was-flying-too-high-by-a-lot-as-new-up-close-videos-emerge-of-collision


3 posted on 02/01/2025 6:20:12 AM PST by CalTexan
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To: 9422WMR

That’s the proverbial “next shoe to drop”, right?!?

While we’re all waiting to learn that name, you can practically “hear a pin drop”.

And of course, when that name is finally ever-so-gently-and-quietly “dropped”, probably after close of business on some upcoming friday, it’s obviously going to cause a social media earthquake, and whip up a PR firestorm!

Because trans.


4 posted on 02/01/2025 6:22:46 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: airdalechief

I have read the helicopter was supposed to be flying at 200 feet, but the crash occurred at around 375 feet. Is 175 feet of separation really acceptable for an approach?


5 posted on 02/01/2025 6:23:14 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: 9422WMR

Name of third helicopter pilot please….

^ THIS ^

6 posted on 02/01/2025 6:23:53 AM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: 9422WMR

The fact that they are stalling speaks volumes.


7 posted on 02/01/2025 6:26:35 AM PST by rbg81 (=)
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To: airdalechief

Do military helicopters carry black boxes?


8 posted on 02/01/2025 6:26:43 AM PST by sphinx
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To: rbg81

“The fact that they are stalling speaks volumes.”

The fact the press is not demanding the name from the military is also speaking volumes.


9 posted on 02/01/2025 6:32:03 AM PST by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: CalTexan

https://x.com/aviationbrk/status/1885321930506457450

?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1885321930506457450%7Ctwgr%5Ee720eb90d3074f056506fb5a69b27964ff1f7ea6%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnotthebee.com%2Farticle%2Ftrump-says-army-chopper-was-flying-too-high-by-a-lot-as-new-up-close-videos-emerge-of-collision

The question mark and everything after it can be safely removed from an ugly link. What all that junk does is tell X that the visitor came from nothtebee.com.


10 posted on 02/01/2025 6:33:55 AM PST by Pollard (Zone 6b)
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To: airdalechief

So both male pilots have their names published immediately BUT the female pilot gets special consideration. Looks to me like DEI is still in effect. Doesn’t the family know that by asking for special treatment they are drawing more attention and the fallout will be worse than if they had just acted like the other families and allowed the truth to come out from the beginning.


11 posted on 02/01/2025 6:35:29 AM PST by 1malumprohibitum (I’m )
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To: Yogafist

” Is 175 feet of separation really acceptable for an approach?”

No, it’s part of some idiocracy.


12 posted on 02/01/2025 6:37:14 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: 9422WMR

> Name of third helicopter pilot please…. <

Please be patient. It takes time to throughly scrub social media posts and alter official documents. Same as it ever was.

Ah, but the difference here is Trump won’t play that game. That will set up yet another contest between him and the Deep State.


13 posted on 02/01/2025 6:39:58 AM PST by Leaning Right (It’s morning in America. Again.)
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To: airdalechief
Abbreviated version of that video.

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Full video

14 posted on 02/01/2025 6:40:30 AM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: airdalechief

Okay, I’m late to the game here and I’ll likely get roasted for this, but as a old former Navy SH-60 aircrewman (basically the same airframe as the Blackhawk) I have some thoughts on this tragedy... First, if the reports are true that the Blackhawk was not at its assigned altitude this is helo pilot error in the first degree. As for a suicidal flight by the helo pilot(s) into the CRJ, I can’t see it. Helo’s while exceptionally maneuverable just aren’t fast enough to deliberately close on a jet, even a jet at traveling at approach speed. To me it looks like 1) helo pilot error, and 2) ATC failure to retain flight path separation for some reason, either incompetence or the controller being overwhelmed by the volume of traffic, or lack of adequate manning in the tower (see incompetence). Just my $.02. (Oh, and I wonder who the third pilot was?)


15 posted on 02/01/2025 6:41:10 AM PST by Afterguard (Deplorable, garbage me. Trump is a threat to bureaucracy.)
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To: airdalechief

I saw video of this right after it happened, and I watched it a number of times. One thing I noticed was, a few seconds after the collision and the wreckage falling into the river, there was a fireball on the ground. It might have just been a optical illusion, but it appeared to be along the flight path before the river, just behind where the plane went in. I have noticed more recent videos cut off before the fireball. I don’t know if there is anything significant about that. Just an observation.


16 posted on 02/01/2025 6:42:24 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (God save the United States!)
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To: sphinx
Yes, the NTSB guy said they retrieved it and can likely get data from it even though it did have a little water penetrate. The plane had two boxes, the voice recorder and the data recorder. The blackhawk had that in a single, combined unit. He was pretty sure all the data can be retrieved.

Press briefings -- 1 - https://www.youtube.com/live/d860IiUhaWo -- 2 - https://www.youtube.com/live/eNEY7rBDlOg

Whether or not that will solve the 375' altitude or visibility issue, we'll see.

17 posted on 02/01/2025 6:42:31 AM PST by Pollard (Zone 6b)
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To: Afterguard

I would agree with you. The tower was understaffed. It’s important that we also know who the pilot of the helicopter was. I’m sure that will have to come out in the investigation or the helicopter voice cock pit data.
This will definitely be a test of Will‘s and hopefully the president and the new leadership of the military will have the integrity to inform the American public of who the Hilo pilot was.


18 posted on 02/01/2025 6:45:29 AM PST by ncfool (America has died we are living in the united socialist states of aMeriKa)
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To: 1malumprohibitum

I’m wondering if it’s not a trans woman(man) and they want to avoid backlash towards them like people deciding to beat dudes in dresses half to death.


19 posted on 02/01/2025 6:46:06 AM PST by Pollard (Zone 6b)
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To: Pollard

Since this evidently was a failure of both air, traffic control, and the military Blackhawk, the litigation will be very high opening as to who was flying the helicopter. The government will pay each family millions of dollars to make this thing go away. Money can’t bring back loved ones but money will be the best disinfectant to get to the truth of what actually happened and who was flying. They can’t cover that up Too easily.


20 posted on 02/01/2025 6:47:17 AM PST by ncfool (America has died we are living in the united socialist states of aMeriKa)
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