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Shortly Before Fatal Crash, Jet Pilot Was Asked to Change Runways
The New York Times ^ | Jan. 30, 2025, 1:14 p.m. ET | Kate Kelly and Emily Steel

Posted on 01/30/2025 5:13:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

The plane had been cleared to land on Reagan National Airport’s main runway. But in the final moments of the flight, air traffic control asked the pilot to land on a separate, intersecting runway.

Shortly before an American Airlines regional jet and an Army helicopter collided near Reagan National Airport on Wednesday night, the plane’s pilots were asked to pivot its landing route from one runway to another, according to a person briefed on the event and conversation overheard on audio recordings of conversations that occurred between an air traffic controller and the pilots.

American Airlines Flight 5342, which was en route to Washington from Wichita, Kan., had originally been cleared by the National Airport traffic control tower to land on the airport’s main runway, called Runway 1, the person briefed on the events and the audio recordings revealed. But in the final moments of the flight, this person and these recordings also showed, the jet pilot was asked by air traffic control to instead make a circle landing on a separate, intersecting runway, Runway 33.

That decision, according to the person who was briefed on the event and two other people who are familiar with the airport’s air traffic, happens routinely when regional jets like the American Airlines aircraft are involved, and may have been made to help keep air traffic moving efficiently by not clogging the main runway. It nonetheless raised questions within the Federal Aviation Administration on Thursday morning about congestion at National Airport, one of the nation’s busiest, the person briefed on the event added.

It is also raising questions about the safety of using intersecting runways, the person briefed on the event said, which the F.A.A. has sought to eliminate or close in recent years in places like Chicago and Dallas because of concerns about congestion...

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To: volare737

LMAO! I’ve parachuted in 30 mph winds, and landed against a barbed wire fence, because I was drug into the fence. I made a poor decision to jump. Otherwise, shut up!


21 posted on 01/30/2025 6:09:05 PM PST by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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To: volare737

Once again, you’re full of doo doo.


22 posted on 01/30/2025 6:10:12 PM PST by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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To: freepersup

You are TOTALLY clueless. Just ask a real pilot. Also, let us know the next time you switch runways when landing…lol.


23 posted on 01/30/2025 6:11:27 PM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: freepersup

Please stop, you are embarrassing yourself at levels beyond what you initially posted.. Again, ask a real pilot.


24 posted on 01/30/2025 6:13:20 PM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: freepersup

Even better, since you probably don’t know any real pilots, just google max tailwind for commercial aircraft.


25 posted on 01/30/2025 6:15:55 PM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: volare737

Really?

I’ve jumped out of C-123s, C-130s, C141s, CH 53s, CH47s, UH60s, UH1s, C7s, U21s, C-172s, C-180s, C-182s, C-185s, etc.

KNOCK IT OFF Clown World!


26 posted on 01/30/2025 6:15:58 PM PST by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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To: freepersup

Since you seem to be enjoying embarrassing yourself, just google it and let us know what you find...lol.


27 posted on 01/30/2025 6:17:01 PM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: freepersup

You have obviously jumped out of too many airplanes to even know what you are talking about..lol


28 posted on 01/30/2025 6:17:57 PM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: freepersup

This explanation you just posted appears to be what actually happened.


29 posted on 01/30/2025 6:21:55 PM PST by dforest
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To: volare737

Face palm.

Keep it up dum dum.

You do understand that when a heavy drop load is extracted out of a aerial delivery aircraft, the first parachute is a 15’ diameter pilot parachute, attached to an H block on the floor of the aircraft?

By the way, I didn’t tell you that I was ALSO a U S Air Force, Parachute Rigger, rigging the Martin Baker Ejection System, (F-4) and the ACES III (3) Ejection System (F-16).

Come on bro, give it a rest.


30 posted on 01/30/2025 6:24:39 PM PST by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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To: dforest

The maximum tailwind for any commercial aircraft to takeoff or land is 10k. With the wind at that time, the tailwind component was between 11 knots and 16 knots for Runway 19. It would have been even worse for Runway 15. The winds were 320/17 gusting to 25.


31 posted on 01/30/2025 6:25:44 PM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: freepersup
What the heck does that have to do with an aircraft taking off with a tailwind? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Please keep it up, this is starting to be fun...lol

32 posted on 01/30/2025 6:27:07 PM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: freepersup
I guess you refuse to at least google max tailwind for jet aircraft takeoff or landing. I udnerstand why you won't...lol

Still waiting here.

33 posted on 01/30/2025 6:29:00 PM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Female” co-pilot was tranny ...

https://www.smerconish.com/exclusive-content/living-to-serve-living-as-myself-a-transgender-service-members-perspective/


34 posted on 01/30/2025 6:56:03 PM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: Jane Long

Hope this isn’t some kind of hoax to make us look bad.


35 posted on 01/30/2025 6:57:29 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Look it up.

Ask Grok or Gemini.


36 posted on 01/30/2025 6:59:26 PM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: freepersup

You will not pass ground school for a PPL.


37 posted on 01/30/2025 7:02:50 PM PST by TTFlyer (Lenin: that by the infliction of terror, a well-organized minority can conquer a nation.)
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To: Col Frank Slade

“The intersecting runway may be shorter so it could accommodate a smaller regional jet, leaving the longer main runway available for larger aircraft.”

That is exactly what I’ve read.


38 posted on 01/30/2025 7:03:18 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (They were the FA-est of times, they were the FO-est of times.)
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To: freepersup

“confusing an aircraft that took off for the one that was inbound”

The pilot analysts I’ve watched think he confused two inbound aircraft. The CRJ pilot wouldn’t have seen the landing lights on the departing aircraft. But they were stacked up inbound.


39 posted on 01/30/2025 7:05:34 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (They were the FA-est of times, they were the FO-est of times.)
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To: freepersup

You jumping out of an aircraft with a parachute has zip to do with an aircraft on approach or departure in regards to winds.


40 posted on 01/30/2025 7:09:13 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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