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China graduates more than five times as many iSTEM students each year; Don’t Worry, We Graduate More Gender Studies and Sociology Majors
Unleash Prosperity ^ | 01/30/2025 | Steve Moore

Posted on 01/30/2025 3:31:15 PM PST by SeekAndFind

While we’re on the subject of school daze, our friend John Mauldin of Mauldineconomics.com wonders whether the news of China’s Deepseek AI breakthroughs means America may be facing another “Sputnik Moment.”

America has completely dominated the global tech sector for fifty years, but U.S. tech leadership now may be hard to maintain in the years ahead. This chart showing that China graduates more than five times as many iSTEM students each year is certainly worrisome.

The silver lining is that if OUR kids aren’t learning math and science skills, we can always hand out visas to the brainiacs of the world who are, and make them Americans. Or maybe we can trade our sociologists for their math wizzes.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Education; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: china; college; education; stem
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1 posted on 01/30/2025 3:31:15 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

From their universities? China and India are notorious for their diploma mills. Also they both have 5x the population of the US.

The smart ones come here to get educated in our universities. That’s the only real problem. We shouldn’t be educating our enemies.


2 posted on 01/30/2025 3:34:17 PM PST by HYPOCRACY (Democracy is dead. Long live the Republic!)
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To: SeekAndFind

China does have four times the population of the US.


3 posted on 01/30/2025 3:34:32 PM PST by caver ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

We have far more angry trannies and screeching purple-haired liberal harpies than China. The ChiComs should quake in fear in their tiny little boots!


4 posted on 01/30/2025 3:35:03 PM PST by wildcard_redneck ( )
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To: HYPOCRACY

“The smart ones come here to get educated in our universities. That’s the only real problem. We shouldn’t be educating our enemies”

It’s worse then that.

They also get preferences. Trump repealed EO11246, but you know they will still be playing games with admissions. And if you look at most universities now, White professors are a dying breed: 50 years of nothing but foreign grad students and AA hiring means most so called “STEM” profs are not named Smith or Jones.

So good luck getting rid of the CCP cut outs. They own the joints now.


5 posted on 01/30/2025 3:42:40 PM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: SeekAndFind

i’m sure the globalist Bushie neoCON ‘muh corporation’ ‘conservatives’ are salivating at the thought of bringing them all over here as H1Bs to steal Americans’ jobs and lower our wages.


6 posted on 01/30/2025 3:42:57 PM PST by imabadboy99
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To: caver

China does have four times the population of the US.


And about 70% of that population still live in very primitive conditions.


7 posted on 01/30/2025 3:44:13 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“China graduates more than five times as many iSTEM students each year; Don’t Worry, We Graduate More Gender Studies and Sociology Majors”

hey Hey Hey, don’t forget we lead the world in PhD graduates who majored in using correct pronouns.


8 posted on 01/30/2025 3:45:00 PM PST by antidemoncrat ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

And most of the ones we graduate here are either Chinese or Indian!


9 posted on 01/30/2025 3:45:20 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they. control you. )
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To: HYPOCRACY

RE: The smart ones come here to get educated in our universities. That’s the only real problem. We shouldn’t be educating our enemies.

Do you advocate an American policy that says: “All Chinese Foreign Students are Henceforth Banned from Studying in the United States”?


10 posted on 01/30/2025 3:45:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: dfwgator

“And about 70% of that population still live in very primitive conditions.”

That is probably true.


11 posted on 01/30/2025 3:45:58 PM PST by caver ( )
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To: aquila48

RE: And most of the ones we graduate here are either Chinese or Indian!

Well yes, but don’t forget the little Island of Taiwan. a significant number of Taiwanese students study in the United States. In the 2023–2024 school year, 23,157 students from Taiwan were enrolled in US colleges and universities. This makes Taiwan the sixth largest source of international students in the US.

The entire Island’s population is a little more than that of New York State.

Do we consider them Chinese?


12 posted on 01/30/2025 3:47:49 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

One of the lists of bizarre college courses (actual).

DJ-ing and Turntablism
School: Berklee College of Music
The basics of DJ skills – such as scratching, beat matching, mashups and mixing – and teaches how to “use the turntable as a musical instrument.” Students also learn about the history of hip hop, radio production and DJing.

Ice Cream Short Course
School: Pennsylvania State University
...which Penn State has offered for 128 years. Entrepreneurs and curious students learn about ice cream from cow to cone.
((Has had waiting list each year because students “scooped up” openings for the course as soon as offered.))

Paintball Kinesiology
School: Texas A&M University

The Geography of Wine
School: Arizona State University

Vampire: Blood and Empire
School: University of Pittsburgh
Students study vampirism from numerous countries, such as Russia, Serbia and France. The course examines movies, music, novels and studies...


13 posted on 01/30/2025 3:48:45 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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Ice Cream Short Course
School: Pennsylvania State University
...which Penn State has offered for 128 years.


Over the last 150 years, the Creamery has been an important Penn State landmark and a world leader in dairy production and food science.


14 posted on 01/30/2025 3:51:49 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Do we consider them Chinese?”

They consider themselves Chinese - the official name for Taiwan is the “Republic of China”.

And by Chinese one usually means a particular group of people. So we have lots of Chinese here who are American citizens. The majority of Singapore is Chinese. And so on.


15 posted on 01/30/2025 3:55:52 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they. control you. )
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To: dfwgator

Didn’t know that. I should dip into its history.

My family’s great uncles and one great aunt owned a dairy in Michigan and ended up having a bitter family feud and selling it to a larger dairy. As kid visiting it looked like a lot of work even with all the milking machines and employees.


16 posted on 01/30/2025 4:04:08 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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I visited the Penn State campus a few years ago and went to The Creamery, it was the best ice cream I’d ever had.


17 posted on 01/30/2025 4:05:42 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Current student population figures show colleged with 57% female students vs 43% male. Not gonna get a lot of STEM and what women you get will be to med school.
The current female centered educational methodology turns too many guys off to continuing to college. Many go to trade schools while others take civil service tests for PDs, FDs, Sanitation etc. The current, read that at least 30 years, school, methodolgies ignore male style of learning to focus on cooperative group assignments, emphasis on how a result is reached and not the result, the absence of competition and this doesnt even consider the woke stuff of the last 15 years.
China CCP basically tells students to succeed at these endeavors of go to work in the factory for the next 45 years.


18 posted on 01/30/2025 4:06:48 PM PST by xkaydet65
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ocus on cooperative group assignments,


Every time I did one of those, it was me who ended up doing all the work, while everyone else lollygagged around. Once I got so fed up, I just told them “screw it, I’ll do it myself, it will end up saving me time anyway.”


19 posted on 01/30/2025 4:08:31 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: HYPOCRACY

Doesn’t matter. If you have a pool of millions of engineers, many who are substandard, vs a pool of few thousand who are, you’re going to end up with more engineers who are above average for the former , and a huge number of substandards who are excellent support staff and have the math to do the supply chain and tooling for the top talent.


20 posted on 01/30/2025 4:09:09 PM PST by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.")
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