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A pilot’s view on why helicopter did not avoid passenger jet in Washington crash...Dominic Nicholls, who flew helicopters for the British Army, explains how airspace is usually controlled to avoid accidents
Yahoo - Telegraph - UK ^
| Dominic Nicholls Associate Editor (Defence).
Posted on 01/30/2025 11:20:14 AM PST by Red Badger
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Aviation Ping!....................
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:21:06 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
To: Red Badger
The pilots are less responsible, imo, than those who were supposed to ensure safe airways.
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:25:44 AM PST
by
Jonty30
(If you ate your twin in the womb, your pronouns should be we/us.)
To: Red Badger
Airborne collision avoidance radar hasn’t been invented yet
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:28:35 AM PST
by
bunkerhill7
(Don't shoot until you see the whites of their lies)
To: Red Badger
It’s impossible to believe that the approach/takeoff paths to/from Reagan airport are not major freeway on-ramps and off-ramps that are marked and known and tightly controlled, etc; etc;
To state the obvious.
To: Red Badger
I wonder what the helicopter pilot’s name was. Just asking for a friend of course.
To: bunkerhill7
I wonder if an AI ATC would work?....................
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:30:54 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
To: NewHampshireDuo
Might be a ‘trans’ Atlantic flight
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:32:40 AM PST
by
Vaquero
(In Don't pick a fight with an old guy. ReataurantIf he is too old to fight, he'llz just kill you. )
To: Red Badger
I’ve never worn — or evn seen — a flight-quailified night vision rig, BUT I’ll speculate they aren’t a “wide angke” view.
Can any real-life MIL pilots comment on this?
Could tunnel vision be a contributing factor?
To: NewHampshireDuo
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:35:12 AM PST
by
mairdie
To: William of Barsoom
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:36:08 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
To: Red Badger
In ordinary flight outside controlled airspace, when two aircraft are approaching each other the aircraft on the right-hand side has right of way.
~~~
Likewise with watercraft, I believe the starboard craft has right of way.
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:36:53 AM PST
by
z3n
(Kakistocracy)
To: Red Badger
The most stringently controlled zones are Class A airspace, such as the area around the Ronald Reagan National Airport in Washington. This is why you can't believe anything writen in a newspaper these days. Class A goes from 18,000 ft through FL600.
To: NewHampshireDuo
People suspect its DEI and incompetence in the airlines - it could just as much be DEI and incompetence in the military.
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:39:55 AM PST
by
PGR88
To: Red Badger
I wonder if an AI ATC would work?....................Only if it is handicapped or LGBTQ+.
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:40:42 AM PST
by
gitmo
(If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
To: Red Badger
I wonder if an AI ATC would work?.................... "The AI ATC system has encountered a serious problem and needs to restart. Please wait."
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:44:40 AM PST
by
Campion
(Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
To: Jonty30
Notably, the helo’s altitude appeared to be over 100 feet higher than the permissable maximum altitude ceiling given by flight restrictions for helicopters along that Potomac corridor. This would be a pilot error.
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:45:34 AM PST
by
steve86
(Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
To: bunkerhill7
All commercial aircraft have a system called TCAS which stands for traffic collision avoidance system which is supposed to warn the pilot of an aircraft that is to close. I don’t think that combat aircraft have it.
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:47:59 AM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Before you post a nasty, stop and think: "Would that person slap me if I said it in person?" )
To: Red Badger
Once given clearance to land by ATC, however, an aircraft does not have to alter course even if, as seems to be the case in this incident, another aircraft (the military Black Hawk helicopter) is closing in on its right-hand side.
I understand they don’t have to take evasive action but couldn’t in this case (presumably).
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:48:25 AM PST
by
erlayman
(E )
To: steve86
That would be pilot error, I submit to that point.
He may have had reason to do that, that I’m not aware of. I don’t know why he did that.
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posted on
01/30/2025 11:50:03 AM PST
by
Jonty30
(If you ate your twin in the womb, your pronouns should be we/us.)
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