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Romanian Fossil Discovery Pushes Earliest Known Hominin Presence in Europe Back to 1.95 Million Years
The Debrief ^ | January 23, 2025 | Tim McMillan

Posted on 01/23/2025 12:02:55 PM PST by Red Badger

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1 posted on 01/23/2025 12:02:55 PM PST by Red Badger
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To: SunkenCiv

PinGGG!..............


2 posted on 01/23/2025 12:03:15 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

What kind of coat is he wearing in that pic.? It looks like pilt down.


3 posted on 01/23/2025 12:05:17 PM PST by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.")
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Faux Fur........................


4 posted on 01/23/2025 12:06:13 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

I wonder if Ron Perlman consented to the use of his picture ....


5 posted on 01/23/2025 12:13:13 PM PST by sphinx
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To: Sirius Lee

Amusing.


6 posted on 01/23/2025 12:24:50 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: Red Badger; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks Red Badger.

7 posted on 01/23/2025 12:42:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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The discovery, recently published in Nature Communications, hinges on meticulously analyzed cut-marked animal bones unearthed in a fossil-rich region historically overlooked in discussions of early human migration.

So a few cut marks makes them think that hominins existed further back than previously believed. I'm not saying it's impossible that hominins were around back then. I'm just saying that this info isn't enough to put too much into. For example, we already know examples of bite marks leaving straight line marks in bones.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6188009/

Long and straight bites from tyrannosaurs are typically left as a result of scrape feeding where the premaxillary teeth are drawn across the cortex (Hone & Watabe, 2010) and usually leave multiple subparallel traces that are broad because of the D-shaped nature of the teeth and these are therefore rather unlike mark 2.

8 posted on 01/23/2025 12:45:59 PM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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If they don’t have the skin how do they know he was all wrinkled up?


9 posted on 01/23/2025 12:46:00 PM PST by packagingguy
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10 posted on 01/23/2025 12:46:16 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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“Gypsies, tramps and thieves...”

Watch out Neanderthal cave men...hide yer wallets


11 posted on 01/23/2025 12:56:41 PM PST by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: Red Badger

Do these guys just pull imaginary dates out of their butts? 1.5 million years this 2 billion years that.


12 posted on 01/23/2025 1:25:26 PM PST by chuckb87
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“While it is clear that the hominin presence in Eurasia at this time was likely geographically and temporally discontinuous, the preponderance of ephemeral traces for hominins in this region can no longer be ignored.”

Is it me or does this sound like these people predated the people who were supposed to have come from Africa??


13 posted on 01/23/2025 1:40:13 PM PST by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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To: Red Badger
Ancient Romanian Skull (c. 1.95m years old)


14 posted on 01/23/2025 1:47:00 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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To: Tell It Right

“Fossil data were then statistically compared with a sample of 898 BSMs of known origin, including: 405 cut marks from a variety of stone tool types and raw materials53; 275 tooth marks from crocodiles and five species of mammalian carnivores54; 130 trample marks produced by cows on substrates including sand, gravel, and soil55; and 88 percussion marks from both anvils and hammerstones56.”

The original study source:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-56154-9#Sec6


15 posted on 01/23/2025 1:54:27 PM PST by Openurmind
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Yes .....


16 posted on 01/23/2025 1:56:48 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Openurmind
From the source:

Twenty specimens total exhibit cut marks; of these, 7 display high-confidence cut marks, 12 show probable cut marks, and 1 specimen presents both types of marks (Fig. 2, Supplementary Figs. 2–21, Supplementary Data 2); detailed descriptions of all marks can be found in Supplementary Note 5.

I'm not saying that these aren't real cut-marks. And I do hold on to the possibility. I'm just saying I'd like more than 7 to have more certainty.

Cut marks were identified using two methods: 1) qualitative analyses modified from18,19, and 2) quantitative analyses using methods outlined in ref.

Hmmmmm....now this is interesting. We're talking about identifying the cut-marks with "qualitative analyses". I hope you understand that my skepticism meter just ticked up a few notches. Keep in mind that I fell for the Lucy scam and others decades ago.

17 posted on 01/23/2025 2:43:07 PM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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But if you look at the images it is obvious. These marks look exactly like butchering marks from later periods. And they are on the right places that would be required to cut main muscle attachment points. I have seen a LOT of these and they fit the bill.


18 posted on 01/23/2025 2:51:00 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Red Badger

Oprah??


19 posted on 01/23/2025 2:53:49 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep

No!! Whoopi!!


20 posted on 01/23/2025 2:56:45 PM PST by sit-rep
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