Posted on 01/19/2025 9:31:59 AM PST by daniel1212
“If it was created, it was by a being outside of the universe.”
And where did this magical being outside the universe come from? And what’s this thingy outside the universe?
I doubt very much we’ll ever know the answers to these questions. We’re caught in a catch 22 world.
We’re about as capable of knowing these things as an amoeba knowing what a human being, or a tree, is.
LOL!
Existence exists.
. Proverbs 26
While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
“Just because we don’t know the cause doesn’t mean there is no cause.”
Stop ruining this fine fantasy by injecting logic into the discussion, will you!?
Right - I agree the greatest philosophers had the humility to admit not knowing - but saying “I don’t know” is probably not what they were lauded for.
Similarly, a science professor is not going to win grant money for saying I don’t know, and a preacher won’t have much of a flock if he’s just shrugging his shoulders and saying I don’t know.
IMHO, anyone who claims to know why there is something rather than nothing is a sad clown.
God is a being of more than 3 dimensions that exists in a world of more than 3 dimensions. Both God and his world have always existed. God then created our 3 dimensional universe that exists within his own higher dimensional universe. He can inject himself into our universe whenever he feels like it, any way he likes.
We exist and know only what is called Euclidean space, that is three physical dimensions and a concept of time related to that space.
My God transcends that space and our universe.
We were made in the image of God and we stole some but not
all of our worlds knowledge and built upon that.
God still watches over us, but it has to be by his rules as our incomplete understanding is so dangerous.
We kill each other for fun and profit what would we do to others totally alien?
Happy Sunday, I listened to a church sermon today as I do every Sunday.
....Atheists say they have the answer to why there is something rather than nothing—the nothing created it!....
Sorry, atheists—nothing comes from nothing!
“In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth!”
it seems to me the explanation is much simpler than all that.
We were given an inspired message long ago.
“God is Light”
the full implication of that realization covers many, many aspects of divine presence in Cosmology, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, and Spiritual matters. (imho)
In my thinking, “nothing” requires a lot of explanation, “something”, hardly any at all.
God
Jesus
The Angels (not the baseball team, the other Angels)
Keith Richards
Sunken Civ (seems to have a suspiciously good grasp on ancient things)
Mr. Cohen (and maybe his Park Avenue digs)
Not sure if the Chinese restaurant was already there. He would have to have a table somewhere.
There never was nothing
I dont know.
My ex used to create fights out of nothing all the time.
At the end of the day, God works in His own mysterious and wonderful ways.
I don’t know if I want to understand them here on earth.
And I won’t so it works out well :)
Amazing though how many scientific things the Bible got right without using scientific words.
One of the best things I ever read said basically, “Saying that the universe was by chance created from a big bang is like saying an explosion in a print shop resulted in the Webster’s unabridged dictionary.
Einstein said that knowledge is the measure of the radius of the sphere of ignorance.
Thanks. I will have to wait to get that figured out!
Every effect has a cause refers to the natural, while eternal per-existence is an attribute of deity. If an exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for complex life with its profound intricate complexity and extensive diversity, created itself, then it is the God behind the existence of energy and organization of matter, and laws regarding the same.
But from Someone came somethings out of nothing, from the God of power and wisdom:
The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men. Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways. (Proverbs 8:22-32)
he said that and then he plagerized someone else’s work
LOL, yeah, if I could stand Fairy Manilow, I'd quote the first line from that song of his.
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