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Why is There Something Instead of Nothing?
godandscience.org/ ^ | 2022 | Rich Deem

Posted on 01/19/2025 9:31:59 AM PST by daniel1212

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Beyond my "paygrade," but such is part of a series of research that resulted from a post on Quora

Dating is a major issue btwn YEC's and the old earth camp. My proffered hypothesis is that as Adam and Eve were created as fully adult, like in a second of accelerated time, so would the earth, but when Adam sinned, and death came, then he and the rest would test to be far older.

1 posted on 01/19/2025 9:31:59 AM PST by daniel1212
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Matthew Pines answered this question beautifully.

If there are infinite possible universes and we are in one of them we could not know about our universe if there was nothing in it.

Since we do know about it there must be something in it.

There is no need to over complicate the analysis.


2 posted on 01/19/2025 9:35:27 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: daniel1212

YEC’s and the old earth

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doesn’t directly appear in the equations for time dilation, it represents a fundamental limit on the smallest measurable time interval in our universe. Understanding time dilation at the Planck scale is a major challenge in theoretical physics, and further research is needed to fully grasp its implications.
In simpler terms:
The Planck time is the smallest unit of time that has physical meaning in our universe.
Time dilation is a phenomenon where time passes slower for an observer in motion or in a strong gravitational field.
At the Planck scale (where space and time are incredibly small), the nature of time dilation and the very concept of time itself become complex and are still being explored by physicists.
Understanding time dilation at the Planck scale is a key goal of quantum gravity research, aiming to unify our understanding of gravity and quantum mechanics.


3 posted on 01/19/2025 9:41:46 AM PST by cuz1961
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it cut the 1st part

Planck time, which is a unit of time in physics derived from fundamental physical constants. While not directly related to the time dilation formula, it represents the smallest unit of time that has physical meaning according to our current understanding of the universe.
However, if you’re asking about time dilation within the context of the Planck scale, here’s what’s relevant:
1. Time dilation in general relativity:
Time dilation is a phenomenon predicted by Einstein’s theory of relativity, where time passes slower for an observer in a stronger gravitational field or moving at a significant fraction of the speed of light relative to another observer.
2. Planck time and the Planck scale:
The Planck time (tP) is defined as the time it takes light to travel the Planck length (lP), which is the smallest possible length scale according to quantum mechanics. It’s calculated as:
tP = √(ħG/c⁵)
where: ħ is the reduced Planck constant, G is the gravitational constant, and c is the speed of light.
1. Time dilation at the Planck scale:
At the Planck scale, where quantum gravity effects are expected to be significant, the concept of time dilation becomes more complex. While the formula for time dilation in special and general relativity can be applied, the nature of time itself may be different at such scales.


4 posted on 01/19/2025 9:43:02 AM PST by cuz1961
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Imagine that all that exists is by accident and without purpose.

Nonsense!

5 posted on 01/19/2025 9:43:24 AM PST by G Larry (Its RACIST to impose slave wages on LEGAL immigrants and minorities by importing cheap ILLEGAL labor)
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Just a little something.

It’s nothing, really.


6 posted on 01/19/2025 9:46:42 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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7 posted on 01/19/2025 9:47:56 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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https://learn.ligonier.org/podcasts/ultimately-with-rc-sproul/out-of-nothing-nothing-comes

Ladies and gentlemen, if anything exists now—this is elementary—then there never could have been a time when there was nothing, because the most fundamental maxim of all reason and all science and all philosophy is the maxim, Ex nihilo nihil fit. “Out of nothing, nothing comes.”


a good theological exploration, worth the two minutes.


8 posted on 01/19/2025 9:49:05 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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If there were nothing, we wouldn’t be asking that question.


9 posted on 01/19/2025 9:49:17 AM PST by Salman (In Hell it is a punishable offense not to call it Heaven.)
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“Imagine that all that exists is by accident and without purpose.”

Terrence McKenna and Dr. Rupert Sheldrake joked among themselves that science allowed for one great miracle (the Big Bang)


10 posted on 01/19/2025 9:55:40 AM PST by KamperKen (u)
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My take. The expansion rate of the early universe is 67 km per second per megaparsec. While the expansion rate of the nearby universe is about 73 km/sec/Mpc. In other words, the expansion seems to be accelerating.

Hmmmm.... that suggests to me that the oscillating universe models I was taught in school is off. If there are repeat big bangs, then the expansion after the most recent bang would be slowing down to eventually stop expanding, then start contracting, and wind back up in another point singularity to eventually bang again.

But the accelerating expansion suggests to me a one-time big bang. If all of the fine-tuning necessary for life ain't right this time, there's not infinite future big bangs hoping it's right some other time. This looks like evidence for design to me to make sure things are right in this only shot we get for life.

11 posted on 01/19/2025 9:56:46 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Either the universe always existed, or it was created. If it was created, it was by a being outside of the universe.

“Something from nothing” is not possible.


12 posted on 01/19/2025 9:57:56 AM PST by I want the USA back (Tomorrow the mean bitter old fart is sent to his basement in Delaware to write his 'memoirs'.)
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"Once again, this ignores quantum mechanics, in which events commonly occur without cause. This is the case for the atomic transitions that give us light and the nuclear decays that give us nuclear radiation. They all happen spontaneously, without cause."1

Just because we don't know the cause doesn't mean there is no cause.

13 posted on 01/19/2025 10:02:31 AM PST by BipolarBob (I've asked what LGBQT means and have yet to get a STRAIGHT answer.)
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Ligonier? How did he come up with that name?


14 posted on 01/19/2025 10:06:41 AM PST by Fungi
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No one ever hailed as a great philosopher or revelator by saying he has no idea what is going on.

And that is the reason none of the great philosophers admit that.


15 posted on 01/19/2025 10:12:49 AM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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Ligonier? How did he come up with that name?

According to the website for the ministry, his "ministry began as a study center near a small town called Ligonier in Western Pennsylvania. Dr. Sproul was born and raised in the Pittsburgh area, so it was natural for him to begin his public ministry there."

What’s a Ligonier

16 posted on 01/19/2025 10:13:54 AM PST by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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TY


17 posted on 01/19/2025 10:15:36 AM PST by Fungi
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To: enumerated

Confucius said that the beginning of wisdom is the phrase-“ I do not know”


18 posted on 01/19/2025 10:47:41 AM PST by Strict9
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To: enumerated

Whoops my bad- that quote is attributed to Socrates


19 posted on 01/19/2025 10:49:27 AM PST by Strict9
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To: G Larry

And exactly WHAT is the purpose of all this?


20 posted on 01/19/2025 10:52:03 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they. control you. )
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