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Air Force veteran whistleblower claims to have worked on UFO retrieval program | Vargas Reports (video and formatted transcript)
NewsNation and Youtube ^ | Elizabeth Vargas

Posted on 01/16/2025 1:32:27 AM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: Sirius Lee; cgbg

Lol, it is a bizarre aircraft from 1942, something to illustrate what possible variations of aircraft that the government could have in the air for generations since WWII.

If you guys think that the mention doesn’t have a place in your space alien explanation, then so be it, space aliens it is, for you.


41 posted on 01/16/2025 10:29:31 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

You should read some basic literature on this stuff.

Dolan is a good place to start:

https://www.amazon.com/UFOs-National-Security-State-Unclassified/dp/0967799503

https://www.amazon.com/UFOs-National-Security-State-Chronology/dp/1571743170


42 posted on 01/16/2025 10:35:02 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: cgbg

Lol, I have read much on the UFO thing over my lifetime, many of us that don’t think space aliens are among us have read much about it over the last 60 years, I even had a best running buddy who wrote a book on his space alien friend, if you used to listen to Art Bell you would have heard him on the show many times.


43 posted on 01/16/2025 10:42:36 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

The trick is to separate the signal from the noise.

The field has an army of fraudsters and deluded characters.

In addition the Pentagon and the Intelligence Community has littered the subject with disinformation to further muddy the waters.

I have given you some links that are solid.


44 posted on 01/16/2025 10:46:35 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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My friend was obviously respected and trusted, and an expert in the field of the space aliens.


45 posted on 01/16/2025 11:00:25 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Give me a name—and let us see if I trusted and respected them.


46 posted on 01/16/2025 11:02:48 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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It won’t help with you, your nature is to always disagree and argue, Art Bell and his world respected the man, and trusted him, and listened to him as an expert on the show on the fields he was involved in.

Did you listen to Art Bell?


47 posted on 01/16/2025 11:10:16 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Art Bell had some interesting guests and some kooky ones.

Some of the real crazy guests I remember were Ed Dames who kept ranting about the end of the world.

Then there was that nut who claimed aliens lived in a big hole beneath his property...

There were several folks who claimed they were time travelers.


48 posted on 01/16/2025 11:13:19 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: cgbg

Where do the space aliens live?


49 posted on 01/16/2025 11:14:08 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

“Where do the space aliens live?”

Wherever they want to....

Lol.


50 posted on 01/16/2025 11:17:48 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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No opinion? Could it be the Pleiadian star? Many think so.


51 posted on 01/16/2025 11:23:15 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

This document better expresses my views on the topic:

https://thejournalofcosmology.com/Puthoff.pdf


52 posted on 01/16/2025 11:28:43 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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Do a lot of reading to learn your opinion on where you think the home planet is for the space aliens among us, no thanks.


53 posted on 01/16/2025 11:32:09 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Fair enough—here is a one word summary of where the aliens live:

Earth.


54 posted on 01/16/2025 11:33:25 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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They didn’t arrive from a distant planet? My friend in his writings, books, lectures and appearances said the are from the Pleiadian star, you think they are native to earth it seems, which would make them just, us.


55 posted on 01/16/2025 11:36:26 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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I am not persuaded any are from distant stars.

I do believe that aliens are liars who enjoy telling tall tales about distant stars to gullible humans.

The “clue” is in the history.

In the 1950s the aliens told contactees they were from Venus or Mars.

In the 1960s the aliens told Betty and Barney Hill they were from Zeta Retiuli and told other contactees they were from other star systems.

Nowadays they are just as likely to tell the contactee they are from the Galactic Federation and the contactee just got nominated as the Earth Ambassador.

They are hilarious liars—Jacque Vallee loved to joke about the alien pranksters.


56 posted on 01/16/2025 11:42:06 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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Whatever that means, your posts aren’t explaining anything about what it is you believe.


57 posted on 01/16/2025 11:54:08 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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That long document you did not want to read explains what I believe are the most likely explanations.

Time travelers is one possibility.

Ancient high tech civilizations that were forced to move underground by cataclysms is another possibility.

Mutated versions of humans that also hid underground are another possibility.

The document lists other possibilities as well.

The aliens just look too much like us—two arms, two legs, one head, two eyes—these are clues....

If they want their privacy lying is the best way to keep it—they may have had millions of years of practice.

The contact experiences are just so numerous—all through recorded history—the notion that they are flying back and forth to distant stars makes no sense.

It is like commuting to work in rush hour traffic when you can just as easily work at home.

:-)


58 posted on 01/16/2025 12:00:47 PM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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If you guys think that the mention doesn’t have a place in your space alien explanation, then so be it, space aliens it is, for you.

I never said it was space aliens. But maybe you have a vivid imagination and can write paragraphs of nonsense from thin air.

The two, solid looking, disc shaped things I saw - a silent silver metallic one in daylight that was at a height of approximately 2,000 ft moving fast against the wind ,pausing, then disappearing into a low small cloud which itself quickly disappeared, and another one at night, silent again, that was below me in the valley and rose up and passed over my head and hovered momentarily at a height of approximately 400 ft before shooting off towards the SW at high speed - were not flapjacks, applejack, Venus, balloons, swamp gas, B2 bombers seen head on, or any of the other cockamamie things you folks who aren't witnesses yet with your vivid imaginations tend to say they are.

They looked like flying saucers. If we have them in our military arsenal - yay us! Yay breakaway civilization and non-government oversight. Pretty retarded of them to be testing over populated areas in the Northeast tho'.

59 posted on 01/16/2025 12:04:28 PM PST by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.")
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Excellent point. Most animal life on Earth has the same basic body plan: four limbs, head above the torso, two eyes and ears, one nose (with two nostrils) and mouth. Organs generally the same and in the same general locations. There is no reason why extraterrestrial life should have the same body plan.


60 posted on 01/16/2025 12:06:51 PM PST by Windcatcher
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