Fact-checking criticism of California Democrats over fires

BBC ^ | 1 day ago according to the BBC | Jake Horton

[DallasBiff]

With fires still burning in Los Angeles after several days, some have been accusing politicians of mismanaging resources and making the fires worse.

President-elect Donald Trump has pointed a finger squarely at California Governor Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, who he said is responsible for LA's struggling water supply.

A lack of water for firefighter's hoses has been cited as one of the reasons the fires have burned so long.

Meanwhile, others have blamed LA Mayor Karen Bass for cutting the city's fire department budget.

BBC Verify looked into the facts behind the political fallout

[DallasBiff]

The BBC being the leftist radicals, as they always are.

[silverleaf]

Fire still burning and BBC fact-checked the disaster already

Maybe now they can turn to fact-checking child rape gangs

[Pollard]

Actually they fact checked two items and both were true. No water in some hydrants and fire dept budget was cut.

[monkeyshine]

They are to blame. Decades of wrong priorities and neglect. Few people object to their transgender cafes and tampons on the boys room as long as the most important and critical needs of the people are met. But they have neglected and in some cases deliberately damaged the most critical aspects of government. They refuse to build desalination plants, they have torn down dams to reintroduce species of fish that haven’t lived there for a century, they sued Trump to prevent water pipelines, they dump freshwater into the ocean, they drained several reservoirs, they don’t refill the underground aquifers, they blew $100 billion on a speed train that hasn’t even laid a single inch of track and runs from farm town to farm town. Those farm towns don’t need an electric speed train, they need WATER! Just like the rest of us and all species on earth.

[BenLurkin]

[dennisw]

Israel had a drought 15 years ago so they went very strong into building desalinization plants on the Mediterranean. They are the world’s low cost leader on this technology. That they have greatly advanced.
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Israel has emerged as a global cost leader in desalination technology:

The cost of desalinated water in Israel has dropped significantly, from about $0.75 per cubic meter in 2012 to $0.41 per cubic meter in 20229......cubic meter=264 gallons water

The Sorek B plant, currently under construction, is contracted to produce water for $0.41 per cubic meter, setting a new global benchmark for seawater desalination

[paudio]

Those two are undeniable facts so they cannot spin whatsoever. The reasons and how the fire spread are two things that they will spin like pinballs and somehow will find a way to put the blame on Trump.

[A strike]

Exactly
BBC is British government mi6/cia coverup narrative from the beginning

-fJRoberts-

[HamiltonJay]

Exactly.

The fact the fire breaks were not maintained and the brush was not cleared regularly is a direct result of government ineptitude.

They can argue many things, but they can’t explain away those.

But the defense of the left has begun, expect more and more stories saying there is nothing they could have done to start showing up...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWB-e4dtbao&t=16s

[RckyRaCoCo]

BBC? Thanks, I’ll wait for The National Enquirer.

[monkeyshine]

I know. Israel now has a surplus of water. They have been refilling the aquifers in the hills, refilling the lakes, and are even bringing the Jordan river back up to historic levels ( for that and the dead sea they add minerals and brine to keep the salinity in balance so as to not disrupt nature). They supply the Palestinians with water and export it to Jordan and other countries as well. They have several generations of advanced technologies.

California is idiotic. The coastal commission has a very odd set of priorities and are politically motivated; recently refusing SpaceX new launch sites for western facing launches simply because of Musk’s change in politics and X policies. They have refused new desalination plants permits and the legislature doesn’t allocate funds or override them; instead issuing electric mandates without enough energy to make it workable and all sorts of virtue signaling nonsense which wouldn’t matter IF they actually could deliver cheap water, cheap energy and lower crime and homelessness. But they don’t do those most basic of needs. And of course, not enough water we even ration water to farms. California feeds a lot of the country, but the politicians are so petty and ignorant they can taste their own hair gel if you catch my drift.

[stylin19a]

'cept this is what they came up with to declare it false...

In February 2020, during his first presidential term, Trump signed a memorandum aimed at directing more water from northern California to central and southern California. That memorandum was tied to the Central Valley Project, a federally-owned and operated water supply project that covers approximately 400 miles in California.

California responded to the memorandum by suing the Trump administration, arguing it would harm endangered species – including the Delta smelt, a small fish that calls the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta in northern California home. It’s nearly disappeared from the Delta in recent years.

The outcome of that lawsuit is unclear. However, President Joe Biden’s administration and state officials announced new rules for operating the federal Central Valley Project and California’s State Water Project in December 2024.

But Trump’s plan would not have made a meaningful impact on the water supply in the Los Angeles area, where the wildfires are still burning.

semantics declares it false ? supposition without certain knowledge declares it false ?

[BipolarBob]

No water in some hydrants and fire dept budget was cut.

Obviously Trumps fault.

[dennisw]

Very good 10 minute video on Israels improved water situation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkbC-rH3frY
Israel’s MASSIVE Water Highway That Could Change The Country Forever!

And they are pumping their excess coastal desalinated water up north to their hills, into reservoirs. No one else does this! What other nations desalinate water, it is consumed daily.

****** If California built reservoirs and had a sane and kind water policy for their farmers. My guess is California agricultural output would be doubled. Or up at leats 50%.

[FoxInSocks]

President-elect Donald Trump has pointed a finger squarely at California Governor Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, who he said is responsible for LA's struggling water supply.

Trump has been saying that for at least five or six years.

[Ken Regis]

Summarizing the problem.

1. Forests and shrub/scrub were mismanaged for 100 years.
2. Fuels built up.
3. Fires (no matter the cause) burn hotter, spread more quickly, move into crowns, burn homes and infrastructure.
4. HFR programs are resisted (by ignorant tree-huggers), expensive*, and inadequate for the expanse of at risk areas. (The world is BIG)
5. WUI - (where voters live) gets HFR, funding assistance, and grants -
6. Many strategically superior target treatment areas are neglected.

* not just the treatment costs but treatment planning, management, permitting approvals are huge cost factors. Again, I blame liberals for ridiculous regulations