I suppose this was the intention all along.
“And that means bars will likely have to charge an extra dollar per pint to offset the higher price”
A higher price of $5 a keg translates to another $1 for a 16oz brew? Another failure of education today who can’t do 3rd grade math.
And how many businesses will go under because of this stupid tax? Governor looking at short term revenue. But long term loss. NYC keeps dying more and more each day.
So the Manhattan-imposed tax is on Manhattan drivers because of traffic congestion in Manhattan and somehow Albany is responsible for it. That explains how New York always elects democrats.
if you’re dumb enough to drink that piss water you should be charged more!!!
“It’s more expensive to live in NY”
Me: “I don’t care”
Some one failed elementary math class. $5 per keg which holds 15.5 GALLONS of beer is equal too 165 regular 12 ounce “pints”. The pint glasses every bar uses are 12 oz size. Don’t believe me take a regular sizes coke can and pour it into a bar pint glass. That said if AHB raised it’s keg prices by $5 that works out to 3 CENTS Per beer out of a normal keg that holds 165 beers worth in it. If the bar raises the price by a buck a beer they are making a $160 increase in revenue in a $5 while sale upcharge. Sounds like a perfect case for a lawyer to take to the state DA for gouging.
Now let’s look at what a typical class 8 truck the soft sides semi that carries those kegs can carry. Brown distributing in Austin is the AHB , my good buddy and former roommate Brian while at UR still drives for them as a CLASS A CDL so I asked him who many kegs does a class 8 soft sides carry? For a real commercial distributor such as Brown the typical truck carries 300 kegs per run.
So now we know how many kegs are going in to a full load of a 4x2 class eight semi with a two axle trailer. This is needed to know how much the toll is. So you have a commercial truck with four axles now let’s download the official pdf with the tolls.
The toll for a multi axle truck is $21.60 one way when you enter the zone south of 96th st that’s once for a whole delivery lload. For any locations south of 60th st as a distro you are grouping your drops so all the drops will be in zone for truck heading that way. You use ESRI GIS software to optimise your route for right turns and minimum miles as well this saves fuel and every distro uses ESRI ARC software applications for this task.
This charge is only at peak hours from 9pm-5am weekdays, 9pm-9am weekends it’s a $5.40 per crossing south of the line or into the island south of 60th st.
So at peak times a truck carrying 300 kegs worth of beer is charged $21.60 once to enter and stay in lower Manhattan south of 60th and $5.40 after 9pm and before 5 or 9 am. Remember this is a crossing charge of the truck is already inside the zone after 5am or 9am they can complete their run inside and exit without paying the peak rate. This encourages trucks to enter early and leave during peak times.
There are credits for using the tunnels as well. It’s $12 off the charge if you come in via the Lincoln or Holland, and $6 off if you come from Brooklyn vis the Queen’s Mid or the HCL tunnels. But we will use the standard rates.
Ok so AHB wants $5 a keg upcharge but at peak times they are charged at most $21.60 to enter and stay inside lower Manhattan. That works out to 7 CENTS per keg congestion actual charge. $21.30/$5= 0.07 off peak $5.40/300kegs= 1.8 cents per keg. Here again AHB is gouging their customers.
The other size truck used to deliver bulk beer are class 7 single unit trucks think moving truck sized truck 30,000lb with a lift gate, you need a class B or A CDL to drive one and they hold 150 to 180 kegs each I asked Bry what they load out them at. Those toll is $14.40 peak and $3.60 off peak. With tunnel credits of $7.20 & $3.60.
So a class 7 delivery carrying 150 kegs at peak times is paying 14.40/150= 9 cents per keg extra off peak it’s 4.8 mils per keg or less than half a cents and the AHB wants $5 per keg extra that’s text book gouging and should be prosecuted. Even if the trucks came in and out for TEN times per load they would only add a class most 90 cents per keg no one anywhere sets up deliveries like that when it takes over an hour and half to get from Harlem to midtown or queens to midtown. You group your deliveries by Burroughs once a truck is in Manhattan every delivery it makes us in Manhattan for that run.
So obviously this is knee jerk with zero mathematical justification.
In a democracy, you get the government you deserve.
We are also all free to move.
This is why I left Seattle for rural Kentucky 13 years ago. Changed my life.
In determining how much money they could steal from motor vehicle drivers to subsidize the bloated, corrupt, financially mismanaged mass transit system, they made no determination at all of the economic impact the congestion fees will have on every business in lower Manhattan, below 59th street. retail or otherwise, or on how much that impact will be sent to the pocketbooks of the residents and visitors there. As prices for everything in the area go up (as the cost of delivering everything to the area goes up), I expect some retail and food service outfits will close, being unable to keep their cutomers with the higher prices they must impose to keep their bottom line healthy. I don’t think it will be long before Amazon, USPS, UPS and Fedex raise what they charge for deliveries to the area.
I remember a few years back when illegal heroin was supposedly priced competitively with legally buying a six pack in NYC.
I think I read that story about the time Phillip Seymour Hoffman overdosed on heroin in NYC.
“congestion pricing” - is that what is known as “supply and demand” in a free market?
Cities exist for a reason. History has shown that when that reason no longer exist, the city begins to die and over time some cities cease to exist.
The question every business owner in a city must ask is, is the city necessary for my business? Can the business relocate and still conduct business? The decision will be a financial one. Of course many business survive only because they are in a big city, but then many can move elsewhere.
The “pandemic” was perhaps the beginning of the end for some cities.
The death of a city is (usually) not quick but spans centuries. Will New York remain a financial and cultural center of the United States? Only time will tell.
I suppose this was the intention all along.
Where is Archie Bunker now that we really need him?
HAAHAA
Sales of Bud Light won’t be affected.
In this case they are penalizing coming into the city.
That includes wholesale deliveries of all kinds, not just beer.