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To: Libloather

And how many businesses will go under because of this stupid tax? Governor looking at short term revenue. But long term loss. NYC keeps dying more and more each day.


3 posted on 01/12/2025 8:00:33 AM PST by LoveMyFreedom
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To: LoveMyFreedom

It is not short term. City wants businesses to close.

1) You are not allowed to enjoy yourselves unless you are using hard drugs for which the politicos get a cut
2) small businesses are run by non-liberals. So, like with the Democrat-funded Antifa/BLM riots; the politicos will prevent the businesses from re-opening after a bankruptcy and use eminent domain to seize the property for the city.

This is how the Maui fires were handled. And, this is how the PacificPalisades fires will keep any single family homes from being rebuilt.


6 posted on 01/12/2025 8:07:01 AM PST by bobbo666
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To: LoveMyFreedom

That’s how ignorant they are, the lefties of New York.


9 posted on 01/12/2025 8:16:35 AM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: LoveMyFreedom

The math doesn’t kill anything. A truck is charged at most $21.20 for a full semi trailer worth of goods. That’s 50,000+ lbs of goods. If they come in early they pay $5.40 once inside they can stay all day and deliver you pay to enter and it’s pay only once, no charge to leave or stay inside the zone. In this case a full load is 300 kegs for a full sized beer truck. That’s 7 cents per keg at peak times. Pure knee jerk quackery. They even get half off to use the Lincoln or Holland tunnels at peak times. The layout and traffic in Manhattan dictate using GIS to group your deliveries by Burroughs so once inside you are making deliveries to that area. But even if you leave and enter ten times with a single load it’s still only 70 cents per keg that holds the revenue of 165 beers I. It.

$21.20 is also 42 cents per ton of goods, shipping uses cost per ton and ton miles. A truck can move 50 tons at a time and if they come in off peak it’s 10 cents per ton of goods ,once inside they can deliver all day you pay once to enter. 2000lbs is a lot of fish,fruit,or,produce for restaurants in cardboard boxes. Even if a large restaurant went though 10 tons of food per day that’s only $4.20 at peak times for TEN tons worth of food. Calm down Francis is what needs to be told to the knee jerk crowd.

London has mind numbing traffic it was so much worse before they put in a congestion charge it used to take 2+ hours to get from the ring road to central London now it only takes an hour ish, congestion charges work. Trucks via their large capacity vs the charge are not affected much, it’s the commuters who drive in that get hit and they are the ones clogging the streets 700,000 vehicles enter Manhattan every day less than 40,000 of those are trucks.

It’s the cars that need to go. Cabs,uber’s have a $1.50 to 75 cent fee per ride. Buses, vanpool,pararides,jitneys are all exempt. This encourages car/van pool and community rides. Manhattan has the most dense ,largest and most frequent subway in the world moving people is what it does best, plus the Mbus system is every 5 min or so in peak times. I lived in NYC for years while at University during the 90s in Hells Kitchen and Brooklyn. I know The City, and am 100% in favor of this charge as a former resident of Manhattan.


16 posted on 01/12/2025 8:57:27 AM PST by GenXPolymath
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