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To: Libloather

Some one failed elementary math class. $5 per keg which holds 15.5 GALLONS of beer is equal too 165 regular 12 ounce “pints”. The pint glasses every bar uses are 12 oz size. Don’t believe me take a regular sizes coke can and pour it into a bar pint glass. That said if AHB raised it’s keg prices by $5 that works out to 3 CENTS Per beer out of a normal keg that holds 165 beers worth in it. If the bar raises the price by a buck a beer they are making a $160 increase in revenue in a $5 while sale upcharge. Sounds like a perfect case for a lawyer to take to the state DA for gouging.

Now let’s look at what a typical class 8 truck the soft sides semi that carries those kegs can carry. Brown distributing in Austin is the AHB , my good buddy and former roommate Brian while at UR still drives for them as a CLASS A CDL so I asked him who many kegs does a class 8 soft sides carry? For a real commercial distributor such as Brown the typical truck carries 300 kegs per run.

So now we know how many kegs are going in to a full load of a 4x2 class eight semi with a two axle trailer. This is needed to know how much the toll is. So you have a commercial truck with four axles now let’s download the official pdf with the tolls.

The toll for a multi axle truck is $21.60 one way when you enter the zone south of 96th st that’s once for a whole delivery lload. For any locations south of 60th st as a distro you are grouping your drops so all the drops will be in zone for truck heading that way. You use ESRI GIS software to optimise your route for right turns and minimum miles as well this saves fuel and every distro uses ESRI ARC software applications for this task.

This charge is only at peak hours from 9pm-5am weekdays, 9pm-9am weekends it’s a $5.40 per crossing south of the line or into the island south of 60th st.

So at peak times a truck carrying 300 kegs worth of beer is charged $21.60 once to enter and stay in lower Manhattan south of 60th and $5.40 after 9pm and before 5 or 9 am. Remember this is a crossing charge of the truck is already inside the zone after 5am or 9am they can complete their run inside and exit without paying the peak rate. This encourages trucks to enter early and leave during peak times.

There are credits for using the tunnels as well. It’s $12 off the charge if you come in via the Lincoln or Holland, and $6 off if you come from Brooklyn vis the Queen’s Mid or the HCL tunnels. But we will use the standard rates.

Ok so AHB wants $5 a keg upcharge but at peak times they are charged at most $21.60 to enter and stay inside lower Manhattan. That works out to 7 CENTS per keg congestion actual charge. $21.30/$5= 0.07 off peak $5.40/300kegs= 1.8 cents per keg. Here again AHB is gouging their customers.

The other size truck used to deliver bulk beer are class 7 single unit trucks think moving truck sized truck 30,000lb with a lift gate, you need a class B or A CDL to drive one and they hold 150 to 180 kegs each I asked Bry what they load out them at. Those toll is $14.40 peak and $3.60 off peak. With tunnel credits of $7.20 & $3.60.

So a class 7 delivery carrying 150 kegs at peak times is paying 14.40/150= 9 cents per keg extra off peak it’s 4.8 mils per keg or less than half a cents and the AHB wants $5 per keg extra that’s text book gouging and should be prosecuted. Even if the trucks came in and out for TEN times per load they would only add a class most 90 cents per keg no one anywhere sets up deliveries like that when it takes over an hour and half to get from Harlem to midtown or queens to midtown. You group your deliveries by Burroughs once a truck is in Manhattan every delivery it makes us in Manhattan for that run.

So obviously this is knee jerk with zero mathematical justification.


10 posted on 01/12/2025 8:33:53 AM PST by GenXPolymath
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To: GenXPolymath

Greedflation.


15 posted on 01/12/2025 8:57:09 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: GenXPolymath

My analysis is less complicated than yours, but reaches the same conclusion: Anheuser-Busch typically distributes its pissy alcohol water in 1/2 kegs, which hold 124 16 oz. pints. Allowing 24 pints for waste and buy-backs, the net yield is 100 pints. $5.00 divided by 100 is .05, which means the pub-owner must raise the price of a pint of beer by a mere $.05 to cover the $5.00 increase in the cost of the 1/2 keg. That’s a .625% increase on a $8.00 pint. Not exactly a budget buster for the owner or the drinker — unless the owner is a democrat eager to exploit a crisis that exists only in the minds of the stupid.


17 posted on 01/12/2025 9:05:48 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: GenXPolymath

I divided $3.60 by 150 and got 2.4 cents per keg. Still pretty damned low. Still greedflation going on.


18 posted on 01/12/2025 9:10:29 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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