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Scientists solve mystery of plunge in IQ across Europe 2,000 years ago
Daily Mail (via MSN.com) ^ | 06 January 2025 | Xantha Leatham

Posted on 01/07/2025 7:07:33 AM PST by zeestephen

It was one of the most technologically advanced empires in history...But the Romans may have been battling with cognitive decline due to pollution, according to a study...Researchers suggest that widespread lead pollution - caused by mining - lowered the IQ of essentially the entire European population at the time.

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KEYWORDS: fakescience; godsgravesglyphs; iq; lead; nonsense; nowaytomeasure; purespeculation; romanempire; trope
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To: Repeal The 17th

Good Question


41 posted on 01/07/2025 7:43:43 AM PST by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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To: zeestephen

Another hypothesis is exactly what is happening today. Wealthy/productive people stopped having kids and the lowest bred like rabbits. Obviously many exceptions exist.

Some of the Emperors even tried ordering people to have kids:

“ In 18 BC the Emperor Augustus enacted laws to encourage marriage and having children, including establishing adultery as a crime. These laws were unpopular and it isn’t certain if they were very effective. They did, however, lead to his own daughter, Julia, being banished to a small island.”


42 posted on 01/07/2025 7:45:47 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: zeestephen

They started D.E.I.?


43 posted on 01/07/2025 7:46:52 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Repeal The 17th

How was the IQ of Europeans 2000 years ago determined?

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Yes!

Didn’t you get the memo from 2020?
No, not the one about putting cover sheets on all TPS reports.
I’m talking about the memo put out to the mainstream media that it’s now okay to write science fiction and call it “science”.


44 posted on 01/07/2025 7:47:14 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: rktman

85 IQ immigrants will wreck havoc on the mean.


45 posted on 01/07/2025 7:49:19 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: rktman

DEI


46 posted on 01/07/2025 7:49:48 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Freud: projection is a defense mechanism of those struggling with inferiority complexes)
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To: Repeal The 17th

They have no idea. This garbage is just made up. There’s no way to do an intelligence test on a deceased person, or a skeleton, or bone fragments or artifacts left behind.

Even if they could determine the average IQ drop of Europeans 2000 years ago they’d still need to know what the average IQ was before that era in order to make a comparison.


47 posted on 01/07/2025 7:53:10 AM PST by redfreedom (May God save us from what the Democrats do in the name of good.)
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To: GingisK

Professor Dutton (YouTube) claims there are some techniques that indirectly offer insights.

Easiest is to study numbers of new ideas, inventions , patents, tech improvements etc. When a civilization’s people become dull these all drop in rate per population unit.


48 posted on 01/07/2025 7:54:14 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: rktman

I thought they were gonna say that’s when the dem party was formed :)


49 posted on 01/07/2025 7:55:00 AM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: zeestephen

Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for the thread.


50 posted on 01/07/2025 7:56:54 AM PST by mairdie
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To: pepsi_junkie

Yeah, I remember the discussions where tomatos were originally thought to be poisonous, but it was because those that ate them, did so with Lead Forks, and the acidity of the tomatoes hastened the leaching of lead into the body.


51 posted on 01/07/2025 8:00:24 AM PST by RainMan ((Democrats ... making war against America since April 12, 1861))
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To: zeestephen

You need a lower IQ to believe this study.


52 posted on 01/07/2025 8:02:47 AM PST by Beowulf9 ( )
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To: zeestephen

I have seen many claims of lead poisoning in Romans. But, I have not seen any reports of lead in the skeletal remains of Romans from that time period.


53 posted on 01/07/2025 8:04:12 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: zeestephen

2 to 3 points? Pffft... we can easily beat that with open border immigration policy. In fact, we likely have already.


54 posted on 01/07/2025 8:05:03 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: zeestephen

Did they unearth stacks of ancient IQ tests? If not, how was this drop discovered?


55 posted on 01/07/2025 8:05:20 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: redfreedom

They have no idea. This garbage is just made up. There’s no way to do an intelligence test on a deceased person, or a skeleton, or bone fragments or artifacts left behind.


Sometimes I read ancient literature and am amazed at the intellect at the time. The apostle Paul is one.

Even my parents with just 3rd grade education had greater intellect than many today. My Dad could do calculations in his head that I never achieved.


56 posted on 01/07/2025 8:05:56 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: redfreedom

Maybe. Or, maybe you can look at what was the existing knowledge base of society, what was the population, what transformational changes did society invent and with what frequency, especially when compared to peer societies, and when did a society go from being a thought leader to cannon fodder.

It is an exercise where you compare them against their contemporaries, not an modern IQ test. The IQ portion is an estimate of what level of IQ would society have needed to average to make the types of transformational changes at the speed with which they occurred based on the size of the population.


57 posted on 01/07/2025 8:06:47 AM PST by RainMan ((Democrats ... making war against America since April 12, 1861))
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To: marktwain
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58 posted on 01/07/2025 8:07:25 AM PST by Semper Vigilantis (The Maine, The Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Tonkin Gulf, Sept 11... what's going to be the next trigger?)
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To: Repeal The 17th

THAT was my question!


59 posted on 01/07/2025 8:16:01 AM PST by goodnesswins (Don’t be REALITY PHOBIC!)
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To: zeestephen

The gaslighting never stops.

And we pay for these moronic “studies”.


60 posted on 01/07/2025 8:17:38 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they. control you. )
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