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Azerbaijan Accuses Russia of Coverup in Kazakhstan Plane Crash
Wall Street Journal ^ | 12/29/2024 | Thomas Grove

Posted on 12/30/2024 3:49:22 AM PST by marcusmaximus

Azeri president says apology isn’t enough, in confrontation that shows Moscow’s waning influence over former Soviet territories.

Azerbaijan’s president accused Russia of trying to cover up its role in a plane crash that killed 38 people, delivering a harsh condemnation that signaled a reversal of the power dynamics that long saw Moscow hold sway over its former Soviet republics.

President Ilham Aliyev said Sunday that Azerbaijan had laid out for the Kremlin the necessary conditions to satisfy the country, demanding that Russia take responsibility for causing the crash, provide compensation for the country and victims’ families, and bring those guilty of downing the plane to justice.

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1 posted on 12/30/2024 3:49:22 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

🧵1/8 - 🇺🇸🇺🇦CIA Director William Burns, who will leave his post after Trump's inauguration, recently visited Kiev.

According to one version, William Burns came to discuss with the Ukrainian authorities possible actions in case of an audit of multi-billion dollar expenditures of pic.twitter.com/E0LGknqIir— Pete Liquid Питик (@PeteLiquid) December 27, 2024


2 posted on 12/30/2024 4:08:20 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: marcusmaximus

It wasn’t Russia that directed a plane through a war zone. Don’t know who shot it or if was hit by shrapnel from a drone that got taken out. That fog of war thing strikes again.


3 posted on 12/30/2024 4:11:34 AM PST by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! )
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To: JonPreston
The recriminations represent one of the biggest confrontations between Russia and the leaders in former Soviet territories whom it once treated as little more than subordinates in its strategic backyard. The dispute illustrates Moscow’s waning power and influence in the region after its invasion of Ukraine.
4 posted on 12/30/2024 4:11:49 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

5 posted on 12/30/2024 4:14:04 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston
The furor in Azerbaijan over the incident lays bare Russia’s diminished influence in swaths of its former empire and beyond in the wake of its war in Ukraine.
6 posted on 12/30/2024 4:15:54 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: JonPreston

I’m all in favor of a forensic audit of every nickel. And not just for Ukraine.

L


7 posted on 12/30/2024 4:16:20 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

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8 posted on 12/30/2024 4:21:23 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: marcusmaximus
Well worth watching

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9 posted on 12/30/2024 4:26:10 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston
On Sunday, Aliyev said that Azerbaijan was investigating whether the plane was intentionally diverted by Russia in the hopes that the damaged aircraft, already flying uncontrollably, would simply fall into the Caspian Sea.
10 posted on 12/30/2024 4:28:10 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: foundedonpurpose

All true, however shrapnel from a drone being hit would be quite a coincidence


11 posted on 12/30/2024 4:33:44 AM PST by blitz128
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To: marcusmaximus

I don’t know for sure who’s fault that plane crash was, but I can’t even imagine going through such an experience.
Even those who survived physically intact, will probably never get over that fright of impending doom.
Some will find it easier to move on than others, as is the case following any trauma of great intensity.


12 posted on 12/30/2024 4:36:40 AM PST by lee martell
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To: blitz128

Most of the damage from that “shrapnel” looked eerily similar to those fake bullet decals the kids put on their hotrods.
Perfectly round holes everywhere, strange huh?


13 posted on 12/30/2024 5:19:40 AM PST by Fireone (1.Avoid crowds 2.Head on a swivel 3.Be prepared to protect & defend those around you 4.Avoid crowds)
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To: Fireone

Took me a bit to find a good pic, hope this link works.
Disagree with your description of damage. Plenty of jagged holes
https://www.aeroflap.com.br/en/Russian-Pantsir-S-missile-may-have-shot-down-the-E-190%2C-sources-told-Reuters/amp/


14 posted on 12/30/2024 6:12:07 AM PST by blitz128
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To: Fireone
Perfectly round holes everywhere, strange huh?

Not if produced by ball bearings used as shrapnel.

15 posted on 12/30/2024 6:22:02 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: marcusmaximus

The Special Russia Sock is getting full over the Azerbaijan plane incident...


16 posted on 12/30/2024 6:46:40 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: JonPreston
The Special Russia Sock is taking a beating from The marcus over this Azerbaijan incident.

We'll have to notify marcus's mom about flash flood warnings.


17 posted on 12/30/2024 6:49:23 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: JonPreston

marcus is one-liner trollink while postink one-handed...


18 posted on 12/30/2024 6:50:45 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: marcusmaximus

Russia has admitted to the shoot-down, and the President of Azerbaijan has conceded that it was accidental. So this is over — except in the minds of those seeking a regime change in Russia.


19 posted on 12/30/2024 6:54:55 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: kiryandil

LOL!


20 posted on 12/30/2024 10:25:26 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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