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Let's talk about 6/2(1+3)
December 28, 2024 | Jonty30

Posted on 12/28/2024 8:35:57 AM PST by Jonty30

I am getting a lot of people who say the answer is 9, but you can get 9 from 6/2(1+2) if you separate the 2 from the 2(1+2), which seems incorrect to me. I view the 2(1+2) as a complete phrase within the mathematical question, so I think it needs to be solved before you move left to right.

6/2(1+2) = 6/2(3) = 6/6 = 1 But there are a lot of people who want to write the question as 6/2 x (1+2), which is the only way you will get 9.


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1 posted on 12/28/2024 8:35:57 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

You seem to have (1+3) in the title, but (1+2) in the body.


2 posted on 12/28/2024 8:38:05 AM PST by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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My mistake. It should have been written 6/2(1+2)


3 posted on 12/28/2024 8:39:29 AM PST by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: Jonty30

The parentheses are evaluated first, then division and multiplication are processed left to right.

But the fact that there appears to be ambiguity means that the expression is poorly written. This example is a teaching lesson and a warning in making one’s intent clear.


4 posted on 12/28/2024 8:42:08 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Jonty30

You’re supposed to reduce the fractional value to it’s lowest common denominator before you multiply it times the sum.


5 posted on 12/28/2024 8:45:31 AM PST by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: kosciusko51

When I broke it down algebraically, it took this form.

F / b(a+b) = (F / ab + b^2) = 6 / (2+4) = 6/6 = 1.


6 posted on 12/28/2024 8:45:50 AM PST by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: Jonty30

Order of precedence is: 1. parenthesis, 2. exponentiation, 3. multiplication and division, and 4. addition and subtraction. Additionally, equal operations are performed left to right.

In your example, 1 + 2 is done first, and then the remaining division and multiplication are done in order from left to right.

So you have 6/2=3 x 3 = 9.


7 posted on 12/28/2024 8:47:34 AM PST by Fish Speaker (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Oh, and, "Let's Go Brandon!")
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To: kosciusko51

There is no ambiguity. There is only one way to evaluate the parens first and then evaluate multiplications and divisions from left to right.

The OP is mistaken in wanting to evaluate 2(1+2) first, because doing so means that a multiplication is done prior to a division that is to its left, which violates the laft-to-right rule.


8 posted on 12/28/2024 8:48:41 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: Jonty30
6/2(1+2)
= 6/2*3
= 3*3
= 9

My cat vigorously disagrees. But I’m sticking to the answer is 9.


9 posted on 12/28/2024 8:50:04 AM PST by Leaning Right (It’s morning in America. Again.)
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To: Fish Speaker

However, a(b+c) = ab +ac.

Using the principle, 6/2(1+2) = 6/(2+4)


10 posted on 12/28/2024 8:50:53 AM PST by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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You would need another set of parentheses for that to be true. The problem is the implied multiplication. If the problem was written

F/b×(a+b) or
F/(b(a+b)) or
F/(b×(a+b))

The intent would clear. In a computer program, or Excel, implied multiplication does not exist.


11 posted on 12/28/2024 8:52:19 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: coloradan

The implied multiplication makes the problem somewhat ambiguous.


12 posted on 12/28/2024 8:53:33 AM PST by kosciusko51
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No it doesn’t. Left to right (after the parens). Nothing changes if the implied multiplication is made explicit by insertion of a multiplication symbol.


13 posted on 12/28/2024 8:56:27 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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It’s the old “order of operations.” Things get solved in this order: Parentheses, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, then Subtraction. So, it looks like:

6/2(1+3) = 6/2*4 = 3*4 = 12

However, if you then solve it left to right, I don’t know how you get 9 out of this.


14 posted on 12/28/2024 8:57:30 AM PST by eastexsteve
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OP meant (1+2) which gives 9.


15 posted on 12/28/2024 9:00:47 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: coloradan

I agree with you, but it appears some are under the impression that implied multiplication trumps the standard math rules.

The explicit use of ‘×’ would solve any ambiguity regardless of the rules being used.


16 posted on 12/28/2024 9:01:41 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Fish Speaker
Order of precedence is: 1. parenthesis, 2. exponentiation, 3. multiplication and division, and 4. addition and subtraction. Additionally, equal operations are performed left to right.

This. The example given by the OP is one I've seen numerous times in computer programming code. Despite the fact that computer languages follows the order of precedence listed above, using those assumptions can lead to confusing code that can be tricky to debug and sometimes is actually wrong. Use extra parenthesis to make the intent clear.

17 posted on 12/28/2024 9:02:28 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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18 posted on 12/28/2024 9:03:42 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Jonty30
6÷2(1+2)
The answer is 1
The only way to come up with an answer of 9 is to break the law
What law?
The distributive law of multiplication over addition. To solve the term inside the parentheses first distribute the 2. Making the term inside the parentheses (2+4) which is 6, 6÷6=1.
If that doesn't convince you express it in words. This would be, six divided by the quantity two times one plus two. Which equals one.
If you're still not convinced, try this. Since division is splitting something into pieces the equation can be expressed as a fraction. 6 is the numerator 2(1+2) is the denominator which =1
Still not convinced, consider the following story problem. 6 coworkers are at a company team building exercise, which includes a day hike through some woods. About noon they decide to stop for lunch. The only thing they find upon opening the picnic basket that has been provided for the team are 2 packages of hersheys holiday kisses. Each package contains 1 hersheys kiss wrapped in red foil and 2 hersheys kisses wrapped in silver foil. The kisses are unwrapped and divided equally among the coworkers. How many kisses does each coworker receive? It sure as heck isn't 9.
19 posted on 12/28/2024 9:05:47 AM PST by radmanptn
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To: Jonty30

I got 43.


20 posted on 12/28/2024 9:06:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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