I don’t have a problem with Musk’s and Ramaswamy’s position that importing the best people in the world, if they are truly the best available, is good for the US.
The problem I have is the manipulation of the education system to downgrade the skills of Americans so they can never be the best and have fair chance at these jobs as well.
Yeah because all those 70k H1b engineer positions that came in to work for Musk couldn’t have possibly been filled by Americans. We are too lazy ,retarded ,and racist.
I would like to know if he used Cognizant. A court found they discriminated
That’s only part of the equation. The salary is another. Those foreign workers are working for far less than you’d think. They get around that by pooling their money on houses and businesses. There is a house down the street from me where three brothers, their wives and kids and the parents all live under the same roof. The house would sell for at least $650,000 right now.
I know from the experience of a very close friend that American workers in the tech fields are looking for jobs, while we are importing Indian coders and software engineers. The company she works for is mandated by a tax abatement agreement with our state to hire a certain number of local college grads. They do, then they put them in dead-end jobs and treat them like crap until they quit. Then they replace them with HB1s. If they don’t quit, they are passed over for promotions and raises as their Indian counterparts move up the ladder.
It isn’t attacking Elon and Vic to tell the truth. There are Americans out there looking for careers in the tech fields that are being passed over. Let’s get those people working. Then if we need more help bring in the best and brightest but make them start at the bottom and earn their way up.
THE MOST SENSIBLE EXPLANATION YET.
I’m with you on that.
And it seems like the schools don’t seem to recognize the particular challenges that go along with Aspergers, which may be why the employment rate for them is so high. My son is an example. He’s a genius at computer science. But in college he didn’t want to waste his time with the busywork and on the tests he had difficulties not because he didn’t understand the content but because he is so precise/purist with language that the questions as they were asked didn’t make sense to him. So his grades don’t reflect his full abilities. One of his professors told him, “It’s a shame that such massive intelligence had to be wasted on you.” That was fully because the prof didn’t understand someone who thinks differently than other people - literally has a different thinking process, a pure scientist who has so much knowledge that even small inaccuracies in language make a big difference to him because he knows distinctions that others have never even thought of.
I took him out of the public school when he became suicidal over a writing assignment where the teacher would only allow propaganda sources rather than the pure scientific data that he wanted to use. She wouldn’t relent, the principal stood by her, and I took him out to save his life.
What Ramaswamy has said about our society’s priorities being screwed up is right, and that happens in the schools. People who could be curing cancer and other great scientific things are more likely to be pushed around and suicided by propaganda pigs than be nurtured, equipped, and valued. The people who can truly contribute to society - as opposed to the homecoming kings and queens etc - are NOT being served by our current system. I’m glad that he made that point, and it makes me sad if the H1B kerfuffle keeps people from taking that observation seriously.
For Musk, I wish that he would look into some of these people who are very, very intelligent but aren’t working BECAUSE of the way that our society fails to understand the minds in question. He’s said he needs to completely overhaul the computer software of the US govt, and I have a guy in my house who has been working with Guix who knows just about everything there is to know about any computer language out there, or can find it out very quickly. He’s fixed a lot of bugs - most recently a bug he fixed within 2 days that others have spent at least a year trying to fix. But he can’t seem to get a job. I wish Elon would take a look at him and others like him.
My other son has a respectable programming job and just recently the company’s owner wanted them to try hiring people from India, working from India. My son was to supervise these people and it was a nightmare. One guy in particular did nothing and knew nothing. It was a risky situation because the owner really wanted the India people to work - probably because they are less expensive. But it is a fallacy that everybody from India is a good bargain.
He was also recently required to supervise a new hire from the very college he graduated from but was a lesbian who hated men and refused supervision from men, very seldom even worked on what she was given and refused to learn the proper ways to program, and was only there because she needed the money to put her ‘wife” through school. She had good academic grades but was not fit to be employed. They let her go in the most recent layoffs; the market isn’t such that you can carry that kind of person any more.
I have no problem with companies being allowed to seek out the best, but I do think that the fallacies and misunderstandings of both some people from India and some people from the US are clouding some issues.