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From 2019 but still relevent to the H-1B discussions that are happening.

But don't worry the firms bringing them over are bringing only the best. /s

1 posted on 12/27/2024 2:41:55 PM PST by chickenlips
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To: chickenlips

Ha! I had a bunch of them at my former international employer.


2 posted on 12/27/2024 2:44:13 PM PST by caver
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I never worked with a good one.
I have also been unimpressed by Chinese engineers.
I did work with some Russians who were very good.


3 posted on 12/27/2024 2:47:41 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: chickenlips

Sounds the same as those who represented themselves as medical doctors. Those folks work in U.S. lab jobs now.

The “engineers” are taking coding jobs and may be working their way that way to prosperity through the ranks.


4 posted on 12/27/2024 2:50:21 PM PST by tunedin
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To: chickenlips

Indian press tells the hard truth RINO globalists try to deny.


5 posted on 12/27/2024 3:01:43 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: chickenlips

...but they’re cheaper


8 posted on 12/27/2024 3:13:30 PM PST by indthkr
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“...the knowledge economy...”

Never heard that before.


13 posted on 12/27/2024 3:39:30 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: chickenlips

India has a large number of for profit colleges/universities and there is very little regulation regarding the quality of education those schools provide. It is likely that a significant percentage of the are diploma mills.


14 posted on 12/27/2024 3:42:40 PM PST by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, black Trump supporter, executed in the street in broad daylight 2020.)
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“A recent employability report has found that over 80 percent of engineers in India are unemployable as they lack the technological skills required by employers now”

Hell, the DEI executives running many of today’s companies will probably fire the US Engineers and hire these folks and wonder why the US can’t seem to compete with Japan. China and yes even India.


15 posted on 12/27/2024 4:16:22 PM PST by antidemoncrat ( )
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Anyone who think Indian Engineers are brilliant and that we need to import more has never worked with Indian Engineers.

“They” (tech companies) want to bring them over because they are cheaper. Full stop.


16 posted on 12/27/2024 4:24:04 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: chickenlips

I started at Boeing as a technician.
I earned a four year degree while raising a family and working full time plus OT( I don’t know how may wife tolerated it)
I became an Instrumentation engineer in my organization,
Experimental flight test. I was well mentored by the Senior engineers.
You need more than just a degree to be a good engineer.
I am a good Engineer, Technician, and Journeyman shipwright.
I had an excellent education, but you also need mentoring
to be a true leader in your skill.


22 posted on 12/27/2024 5:34:32 PM PST by rellic (no such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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Unz Review has a 3,700 word article on the indian mentality. Says they extremely corrupt and we don’t want them here.

https://www.unz.com/article/india-its-worse-than-you-think/


23 posted on 12/27/2024 5:38:57 PM PST by Diversity Is Our Weakness
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To: chickenlips

To be fair.... That’s better than the graduates from US woke colleges


24 posted on 12/27/2024 5:54:19 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: chickenlips

Doing the jobs we just won’t let Americans do.😏


25 posted on 12/27/2024 7:09:00 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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80% of Canada’s “H1-B” Indians faked their credentials. The student visa Indians fill all the service jobs, getting hired by the Indian franchise owners.


27 posted on 12/27/2024 7:36:20 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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Have worked with a number of Indian and mid-east software engineers over the years. Asians, too.
The ones from Pakistan were the most difficult in terms of simply being obnoxious, as a group (I’m going back nearly thirty years). Asians tended to work well only in groups. Americans and Europeans were most able to work capably on their own.
Culture.
It is a huge problem with software developers who are not familiar with the ‘anything goes’ American culture, including most Indians, Asians and mid-easterners. Also found non-American’s code documentation to be trying in terms of deciphering what the hell they were describing. Many of the engineers were multi-lingual with English frequently a second, third or even fourth language. Of course, I’ve been accused of, when back in my drinking days, of having no intelligible language skills, so there’s that.


28 posted on 12/27/2024 7:47:56 PM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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Consider this American Football analogy. Most of the IT engineers from India are trained to be Deep Snappers. You get a big huge team of 80 Deep Snappers. With AI and other types of current apps & services you need lots of QBs and not so many Deep Snappers. Put one of these teams on the field for any play and they will do a good job at having 11 Deep Snappers all trained and ready to do their job lined up every 5 yards to hike and deep snap the ball. However there will be several fumbles as they aren’t Placeholders who catch balls to prepare for a kicker. And once the 11th guy who is 50 yards behind the line of scrimmage hikes the ball (if they get that lucky) they won’t know what to do as the ball is roaming freely behind everyone. If they recover all the fumbles it will be 2nd and 60 best case scenario. The coach should then put in a real QB and other players, but since they just have Deep Snappers their options are limited. Hike hike hike good luck on winning the Super Bowl. Teams with a wider range of skills will do better.

Now if the opposite team puts a line of linemen up against one of the Deep Snappers then that Deep Snappers ought to do well because their training has been so focused on that need. However any team, with a wide range of skills, that prepares to play them will figure out some strategy that ought to do well against the 11 Deep Snappers squads that the other team puts up against them.


29 posted on 12/27/2024 8:07:51 PM PST by Degaston
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India: It’s Worse Than You Think

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/india-its-worse-you-think


30 posted on 12/27/2024 8:36:21 PM PST by Farcesensitive (K is coming)
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So much for merit based immigration.


32 posted on 12/27/2024 11:01:31 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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