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Trump wants 5% Nato defence spending target, Europe told
Financial Times ^ | 12/20/2024 | Lucy Fisher in London, Henry Foy in Brussels and Felicia Schwartz in Washington

Posted on 12/20/2024 9:21:50 AM PST by marcusmaximus

Donald Trump’s team has told European officials that the incoming US president will demand Nato member states increase defence spending to 5 per cent of GDP, but plans to continue supplying military aid to Ukraine.

During his White House campaign, Trump vowed to cut off aid to Ukraine, force Kyiv into immediate peace talks, and leave Nato allies undefended if they failed to spend enough on defence — spooking European capitals.

But in a boost for allies deeply concerned over their ability to support and protect Ukraine without Washington’s backing, Trump now intends to maintain US military supplies to Kyiv after his inauguration, according to three other people briefed on the discussions with western officials.

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KEYWORDS: byefelicia; entanglements; europe; feliciaschwartz; foreignentanglements; henryfoy; lucyfisher; nato; smokinthehopium; trump; ukraine
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To: Gay State Conservative

No. It really needs to be 5% so that Europe can protect itself. That number in no way benefits the United States, it benefits Europe mostly, as well as the nations of Europe. Trump is trying to make sure that NATO is real, and it’s about time somebody did.


21 posted on 12/20/2024 9:43:43 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: marcusmaximus

“Putin is unstable.”

Look in the mirror.


22 posted on 12/20/2024 9:43:44 AM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff

I told you President Trump wasn’t going to throw Putin a victory parade.


23 posted on 12/20/2024 9:44:29 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

We should pull out of NATO. Trump warned them 7 years ago. Really they did not do much since then.


24 posted on 12/20/2024 9:45:27 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: McGruff

When President Trump said he’d end Putin’s invasion with Peace Through Strength diplomacy he meant it.


25 posted on 12/20/2024 9:46:23 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus
We should have shut down NATO in 1992. If Europe wants it, they're rich and can pay for their own defense.

Israel is also rich and can pay for its own defense.

So can Taiwan.

26 posted on 12/20/2024 9:47:29 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: Salman
NATO must cease to exist. It outlived its usefulness after the Warsaw Pact dissolved.

Because Russia is no longer a threat; it would never invade another country and continue the war for nearly three years, right?

27 posted on 12/20/2024 9:47:34 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Salman
Hate to say it, but it looks like we're still in for a foreign policy of endless wars.

Trump also promised a "big, beautiful door" in his wall on the border.

28 posted on 12/20/2024 9:51:18 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: marcusmaximus

But I thought Trump had Putin wrapped around his finger. Notwithstanding Putin has already called Trump out as a liar, and his TV station ran a roll of nude photos of Melania while smirking at the announcement that Trump won the election, Trump always talks up Putin and clearly admires him, unstable or not. I guess his promise that only he can end the war, and he’d end it within 24 hour of his inauguration is like his promise that Mexico would pay for the wall


29 posted on 12/20/2024 9:52:50 AM PST by Kathy in OC
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To: Pete Dovgan
No. It really needs to be 5% so that Europe can protect itself. That number in no way benefits the United States...

It benefits the US corporations that build all the standardized equipment used by NATO.

30 posted on 12/20/2024 9:54:15 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: marcusmaximus

Another pro-Ukraine propaganda article where the Zeeper Never-Trumpers just can’t help but out themselves!


31 posted on 12/20/2024 9:54:26 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: Kazan

“”””It’s five percent or we pull out of NATO””””

To accomplish that Trump will have to convince them that Russia is the threat that you see them as, to require that massive of military budgets for Russia’s 31 European neighbors who are under the most direct threat.


32 posted on 12/20/2024 9:55:43 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Kathy in OC

President Trump will end Putin’s invasion with Peace Through Strength diplomacy and sanctions relief for Russia in exchange for retreating from occupied Ukraine territory.


33 posted on 12/20/2024 9:56:53 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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actually was just reading a story about why nuclear arsenals became so huge.

After WW2 the USA and rest of NATO were supposed to create a 50 something division standing army in Europe. It was figured that would be enough to hold off the Warsaw pacts 175 division army if they invaded.

The US came up with their quota and Western Europe failed miserably.

So the US calculated the only way to stop them Was by using nukes and that started the nuclear arms race in earnest.

Some things Never change it seems.


34 posted on 12/20/2024 9:58:21 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: SoConPubbie
the incoming US president will demand Nato member states increase defence spending to 5 per cent of GDP, but plans to continue supplying military aid to Ukraine.
35 posted on 12/20/2024 10:01:09 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: Phoenix8

What quota, what was that post about, what were you reading, what dates?


36 posted on 12/20/2024 10:03:45 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Kathy in OC

Still sore that your beloved Kamala lost.

Get over it.


37 posted on 12/20/2024 10:08:34 AM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Proud Liverpool fan. Up the Reds! #You’llNeverWalkAlone)
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To: marcusmaximus

This seems more like EU propaganda.
NATO, UN, Ukraine and the EU all belong in the same circular file drawer.


38 posted on 12/20/2024 10:10:03 AM PST by Zathras
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To: SoConPubbie
--- "Another pro-Ukraine propaganda article where the Zeeper Never-Trumpers just can’t help but out themselves!"

But, but, but we learn what Trump WILL DO in the future "...according to three other people briefed on the discussions with western officials...."

39 posted on 12/20/2024 10:14:04 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Pete Dovgan; Gay State Conservative

Aside from those benefits, world shipping is patrolled/protected by the US navy. There should be a contribution for that, which permits Europe to forego that responsibility allowing them to fund generous social programs that make our leftists salivate.


40 posted on 12/20/2024 10:16:03 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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