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On the confusing Syria-rebels: Kurds, Secular or Jihadi?

Posted on 12/08/2024 11:58:33 AM PST by Words Matter

SOME ORDER

Among the many groups, there are mainly four:

A. HTS al-Jolani: Islamic Jihadists ex Nusra (supported Hamas Oct 7 attacks).

B. Other Islamists - backed by Turkiye.

C. Kurds - allies of US

C. Others, including secular.

Non jihadisrs are mainly under FSA


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KEYWORDS: anotherbidenwar; anotherobamawar; arabs; kurds; muslims; obamawar; rop; syria; syrianrebels; vanity
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To: Words Matter

Haven’t heard the Shia/Suni thing yet.


21 posted on 12/08/2024 12:30:31 PM PST by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: Words Matter

One thing they all have in common, they hate the Joooooos.


22 posted on 12/08/2024 12:30:32 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Words Matter

So, Kurds, Secular or Jihadi?

Answer: Yes.


23 posted on 12/08/2024 12:32:55 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Words Matter

Who cares? None are allies.


24 posted on 12/08/2024 12:33:33 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and don't wish to smile.)
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To: dfwgator

The more things change...

From February 2015, almost 10 years ago:

https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Behind-the-Lines-Hezbollah-Tehran-Assad-join-forces-against-buffer-zone-near-the-Golan-Heights-390903

...the Iranians are seeking to develop the area east of the Golan Heights as a springboard for operations against Israel (contrary to the historic practice of the Assad regime, which was to keep that area quiet and apply pressure elsewhere).

The killing of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps general and others on January 18 was a move in the Israeli effort to prevent this...


25 posted on 12/08/2024 12:39:57 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: jjotto

Bkmrk


26 posted on 12/08/2024 12:40:09 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Nessun Dorma.)
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To: Beowulf9

Hayat Tahrir al-Sham


27 posted on 12/08/2024 12:41:53 PM PST by Retrofitted
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To: Words Matter

Right now even Christians and Alawites are celebrating in massive numbers in their cities. According to the Alawites, only the top 1% of Alawites who had ties to Assad had any protection. The rest were as under surveillance and threat of arrest and torture as everyone else. I’m assuming that’s the case with the Christians since I see them stomping on Assad statutes and dancing around Christmas trees as well.

I have also seen NO reports of any minorities being attacked. One of the main groups, Jihadists, put out an order stating that no minorities or their lands should be harmed, and have told religious leaders in each town that minority rights will be respected and warned anyone who might do otherwise.

Since Turkey is involved, it’s possible they won’t permit Syria to turn into another Afghanistan. But we’ll see.

I DO fear for the Kurds.


28 posted on 12/08/2024 12:46:47 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Freee-dame

Israelis are/were.


29 posted on 12/08/2024 12:49:03 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Words Matter

Because he wants a bigger role, and to eventually rule like the Ottomans.


30 posted on 12/08/2024 12:55:01 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Freee-dame

Yeah, we are behind this. We install jihadis as leaders.


31 posted on 12/08/2024 12:56:05 PM PST by dforest
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To: Words Matter

If Turkey is the instigator, they’re Jihadi.


32 posted on 12/08/2024 12:56:18 PM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Alas Babylon!

The Kurds are mostly secular, but very leftist.
More-less communists.

Practically speaking, none of the Syrian fraction is desirable from US point of view.
It will be “choose the lesser evil”.


33 posted on 12/08/2024 1:07:43 PM PST by AZJeep
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To: AZJeep

“Choose the lesser evil”.

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Of course.


34 posted on 12/08/2024 1:10:21 PM PST by Words Matter
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To: Socon-Econ

They are playing it both sides. Just like Qatar does in Israrl vs terrorists.


35 posted on 12/08/2024 1:11:19 PM PST by Words Matter
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To: jjotto

Good catch


36 posted on 12/08/2024 1:11:59 PM PST by Words Matter
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To: jjotto

I haven’t seen Alma articke. They are no.1 expert in the region Syria/Lebanon. Thanks


37 posted on 12/08/2024 1:13:11 PM PST by Words Matter
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I just saw a tweet from the Washington Post saying the Bishop of Aleppo is urging people not to believe Assadist propaganda about ISIS, and that he gives credit to the people of Syria for being able to live together in peace. There has been no prosecution thus far of minorities.


38 posted on 12/08/2024 1:34:18 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Words Matter

SDF Kurds and allies are friends of the USA.

In Northern Syria, I have seen estimates of religious beliefs.
It varies in the town they live in. My guess from a few years ago 1/4-1/3 are Christian (Syriac and other), 1/3 atheists, 1/3 Muslim (some secular (in name only) to keep them from harm)

I read that during the years they were fighting ISIS with our support there were 24,000 Christian conversions.

The PKK influence is largely atheists.

The Kurds lost 11,000 soldiers fighting ISIS.


39 posted on 12/08/2024 1:35:27 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: dforest

“we are behind this.”

Certainly not all of it. The Kurds, Yes.

Al Qaeda is the label of the force leader.


40 posted on 12/08/2024 1:40:57 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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