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7,000-Year-Old Weapon Shows “Unprecedented Degree” of Precision and Technical Mastery
The Debrief ^ | December 05, 2024 | Christopher Plain

Posted on 12/06/2024 7:38:32 AM PST by Red Badger

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1 posted on 12/06/2024 7:38:32 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: SunkenCiv

PinGGG!.....................


2 posted on 12/06/2024 7:38:53 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger; SunkenCiv

The bow strings I buy always fall apart after around five thousand years.


3 posted on 12/06/2024 7:41:48 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Red Badger

This is very cool.


4 posted on 12/06/2024 7:42:30 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Looks like I'll have to buy the White Album again.)
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To: Red Badger

“7,000-year-old”

By definition, the craftsman who manufactured this weaponry can’t pre-date Adam and Eve.

So there’s that.

For what it’s worth.

And stuff.


5 posted on 12/06/2024 7:43:37 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

In New York, if you craft a bow like that, they would probably bring you up on some kind of charges.


6 posted on 12/06/2024 7:45:13 AM PST by Ueriah
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To: one guy in new jersey

some of them just didn’t read the book.


7 posted on 12/06/2024 7:48:10 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma deuce)
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To: Red Badger

I need someone to help me drag this mammoth back to camp...


8 posted on 12/06/2024 7:54:19 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: one guy in new jersey

** can’t pre-date Adam and Eve.***

Only if you accept Bishop Ussher’s 1650 calculations.


9 posted on 12/06/2024 8:01:41 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Red Badger

Man has always been very crafty since his creation. These discoveries are only “surprising” because they expose the fantasy of their evolution theories.


10 posted on 12/06/2024 8:04:46 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: Larry Lucido

They just don’t make them like they used to.


11 posted on 12/06/2024 8:12:27 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: Red Badger; SunkenCiv

Very fascinating. Thanks, Red.

With that degree of technical sophistication, there must have been dedicated teams of people collecting the materials, the pitch, the reeds, the sinews from the animals. Think of all the knowledge that was collected over vast periods of time and passed down orally. How did innovation occur? There must of have been lots of experimentation. The bow and arrow masters must have worked closely with the hunters and soldiers to improve the weapons (the original MIC).

There had to have been lots of organizational skill, too, with a lot of labor specialization.

How did the teams that made the bows and arrows get paid? Pure barter, I would imagine.


12 posted on 12/06/2024 8:16:42 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Facts can be ignored, but their consequences cannot be escaped” -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

This is how peoples occupations became their family surnames.

‘FLETCHER’ is an arrow maker................


13 posted on 12/06/2024 8:18:48 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

True. The literal interpretations were more of a more modern view of scripture. The early church tended to view these stories as symbolic:

Some of the early Church Fathers didn’t believe all the stories in the Old Testament were supposed to be taken literally. They thought some of them were more like symbols or lessons to teach us about God. Here’s what a few of them thought:

1. Origen of Alexandria (c. 184–253)
Origen thought a lot of the Bible stories were symbolic. Like, he didn’t think the Garden of Eden was a real garden with a talking snake. He thought it was more of a lesson about how people make mistakes and need God. He also didn’t get how there could be mornings and evenings before the sun was made, so he figured the story wasn’t literal but meant to teach something.

2. Clement of Alexandria (c. 150–215)
Clement thought the Bible was written to help people grow closer to God. He didn’t think the six days of creation were actual 24-hour days. He thought they were more like steps in a process. He also believed Noah’s Ark wasn’t just about a real boat with animals but was a symbol of how God protects people who trust Him.

3. St. Augustine of Hippo (354–430)
Augustine thought the Bible was true, but not everything in it actually happened the way it says. He thought the creation days in Genesis weren’t regular days but stages of how God made everything. He also thought the story of Jonah and the whale might have been a way to show how Jesus was in the tomb for three days before coming back to life. In his autobiography he says before he converted to be a Christian, he had difficulty accepting things from the Old Testament. The Bishop told him to read it as an allegory and he then lost his reservations.

4. Philo of Alexandria (c. 20 BCE–50 CE)
Philo wasn’t Christian, but some of his ideas were really similar to what Christians believed. He thought Adam and Eve weren’t real people but symbols of the mind and senses. He said the snake was temptation, not a real snake. He also thought the story of Cain and Abel was about choosing between good and bad.


14 posted on 12/06/2024 8:19:03 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Red Badger

I’ve always wondered where my friend “John Shoemaker” got his family name. 😃


15 posted on 12/06/2024 8:20:33 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Facts can be ignored, but their consequences cannot be escaped” -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

His family had a lot of sole.....................


16 posted on 12/06/2024 8:25:32 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Larry Lucido

It’s hard to find good ibex tendon, these days.


17 posted on 12/06/2024 8:28:15 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: gundog; Yogafist

Always buy Sears Craftsman tendon bow strings.


18 posted on 12/06/2024 8:31:34 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The thing that impressed me most when they found Otzi was that he was using footed arrows.


19 posted on 12/06/2024 8:33:18 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: gundog

“footed arrow”

I didn’t know that using different materials in different parts of the shaft had a name.

Ötzi lived between 3350 and 3105 BC. These finds are even older, 5000 BC.

Amazing, isn’t it?


20 posted on 12/06/2024 8:40:29 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Facts can be ignored, but their consequences cannot be escaped” -- Thomas Sowell)
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